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Article #2665Re: Perpetuum Mobile invented !
From: Andreas Haffner
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 00:00
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 00:00
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Bob Casanova wrote: > ... some history deleted which is not important in this context... > >Both systems you describe seem to be an energy storage, but not an engine in usual > >sense. And making energy storages 100% efficient is not so hard as long as it is > >mechanical work you are storing: a spring for instance. > > Sorry, but a spring (or *any* mechanical energy storage system) has internal > losses which result in <100% efficiency. > > >- Andreas Haffner > > Bob C. > > * Good, fast, cheap! (Pick 2) * Well, well... I will not argue here too strong but imagine: If there was any loss in a spring it would not return to its original position after being depressed. So I guess the efficiencey is at least some 99.99999% or more. How long would your car engine run if the valve springs had losses? What about the energy stored in the velocity of a planet orbiting in (theoretically) absolute vacuum the sun? But okay, maybe I overlook something... Any corrections from the net? - Andreas Haffner
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