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Article #2667Re: Perpetuum Mobile invented !
From: Stan Bischof
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 00:00
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 00:00
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Andreas Haffner (ahaffner@aft.sn.no) wrote: : Well, well... I will not argue here too strong but imagine: If there was any loss in a : spring it would not return to its original position after being depressed. So I guess Huh? Why does the spring returning to it's original position imply anything about loss? Loss is an energy balance and has little to do with the physical position. Consider throwing a ball up into the air. I think that you will agree that there is "loss" involved ( the ball slows down by colliding with and warming up air molecules ) and yet it will return to you nonetheless. The spring warms up when you compress it. This is "loss" in that the mechanical energy is being converted to heat. The spring returns more-or-less to it's original position nonetheless. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Stan Bischof Hewlett Packard Company 707-577-3994 stanb@sr.hp.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107e5d,41c9e18c6d45ea07 X-Google-Attributes: gid107e5d,public X-Google-Thread: 10e415,41c9e18c6d45ea07 X-Google-Attributes: gid10e415,public X-Google-Thread: f989f,41c9e18c6d45ea07 X-Google-Attributes: gidf989f,public X-Google-Thread: f69b1,41c9e18c6d45ea07 X-Google-Attributes: gidf69b1,public X-Google-Thread: ff28c,41c9e18c6d45ea07 X-Google-Attributes: gidff28c,public X-Google-Thread: 1038c2,41c9e18c6d45ea07 X-Google-Attributes: gid1038c2,public X-Google-Thread: fd325,41c9e18c6d45ea07 X-Google-Attributes: gidfd325,public X-Google-Thread: fff83,41c9e18c6d45ea07 X-Google-Attributes: gidfff83,public From: stanb@sr.hp.com (Stan Bischof) Subject: Re: Perpetuum Mobile invented ! Date: 1996/06/10 Message-ID: <4phibm$brr@canyon.sr.hp.com> X-Deja-AN: 159457836 references: <69kLYINuldB@ddd.snafu.de> <4og421$m10@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <31af3f7d.0@193.89.47.9> <DsC3FC.B9L@eskimo.com> <4os0c5$77k_001@ip213.sky.net> <31b4987a.340467316@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> <4p2npq$7v4_001@ip215.sky.net> <31b75faa.504355@ne <cas.713.004AD7D0@ops1.bwi.wec.com> <31BC3A96.FCE@aft.sn.no> followup-to: sci.energy,alt.energy,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.science,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,cl.energie.alternativen,de.alt.ufo,sci.energy.hydrogen,sci.environment,sci.materials,sci.physics,sci.physics.fusion organization: Hewlett Packard Sonoma County newsgroups: sci.energy,alt.energy,alt.energy.renewable,alt.paranet.science,alt.paranet.ufo,alt.sci.physics.new-theories,cl.energie.alternativen,de.alt.ufo,sci.energy.hydrogen,sci.environment,sci.materials,sci.physics,sci.physics.fusion