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Stefan Hartmann (harti@uropax.contrib.de) wrote:
: conover@max.tiac.net (Harry H Conover) writes:

: >Stefan Hartmann (harti@shb.contrib.de) wrote:
: >: Well, I just received the latest news about the research done over here
: >: at the Workshop for decentral energy research in Berlin, Germany.

: >: The physician Mr. Bernhard Schaefer and his team of researchers, together  
: >: with the russian inventor Serogodski have successfully patented their
: >: new machine design, which works as a heat to mechanical energy converter.

: >: It does not need a "cold pole", it just converts the surounding heat into  
: >: useful mechanical work.

: >: It works via "retrograde condensation" and uses a gas-mixture of 2 working  
: >: mediums, N2 and C4H10.

: >: The German patent office issued the patent number:

: >: 42 44 016

: >: Try to get it and read it. It is very interesting.

: >: Bernhard Schaeffer has worked over a 30 years time period on these limits  
: >: of the 2nd thermodynamic sentence and finaly has won the battle.

: >: With his latest measurements he now can prove, that with the retrograde  
: >: condensation with these gas-mixtures he can get efficiencies, which are  
: >: far higher, than Carnot would predict.

: >: These measurements are done very precisely and it was invested a huge  
: >: amount of money and time to build all the technical equipment to measure  
: >: the effect at the right pressure and temperature.

: >: This invention will change the world. Now endless "free energy" is  
: >: possible to use. You just pay for the machine and it will produce  
: >: pollution free clean electrical energy, just by converting the heat of the  
: >: surrounding into electrical energy. Just think about a refrigirator, which  
: >: produces electrical energy, instead of consuming it !

: >: You will soon hear more about this fantastic invention ! The future of  
: >: mankind looks bright !


: >: If you want to have more info on this whole subject, please write to the  
: >: company which finances all the work:

: >: Doekowa GmbH & Co KG
: >: attn: Dr. Hans Wilh. Colsman
: >: 45241 Essen, Germany

: >: They will send you an information paper of all the measurements and the  
: >: future plans.
: >: If you are an investor, which wants to license the machine design to build  
: >: inside your country you are welcome to contact them as well.


: >: So far my latest information. Sorry, they don't yet have email access, so  
: >: you have to write to them by snail mail.
: >: I will keep you updated on all the latest news about their machine design.

: >: Regards, Stefan.




: >Stuff like this is fun to speculate about, debate, and sometimes even to
: >flame.  Lots of fun, so long as you don't invest your hard earned money
: >into its future and viability!  

: >                                    Harry C.

: >ps.  I'm not saying that this guy has nothing, because he could have.
: >     I am saying that it is extremely improbable that he has violated
: >     the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.  Only availability of additional
: >     will tell the entire story.


: Well, if you don't believe it, just get the patent and read it !
: Just flaming here with no knowledge about the machine does not help !

Send me a copy of the patent, and any analysis of the good doctor's ideas
and work, and I will be happy to provide you with an analysis.  On the
other hand, if you really want flames, I sall be happy to cooperate!

As I mentioned before, my interest is protecting the financial interests
of those not technically sophisticated enough to realize how unlikely
an event violation of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics would be.  I have
no interest in flaming the good physician, but can if called upon to do
so.

: BTW, Doekowa GmbH and Co KG can be reached by FAX:

: ++49 201 4865 211

: Please send them a request via FAX to send you some info material.
: You will soon hear more about this wonderful new invention !

: regards, Stefan.

My fax number of (508) 256-6972.  If you would make a believer out
of me, have then send me some scientific background on their findings.
I will be happy to analyze and report on any materials provided (as as
a physicist/engineer with over 30 years experience, am likely qualified
to do so.)

However, to invest in a long distance fax call to Germany to receive
investment information from some guy that claims to violate the Laws
of Thermodynamics is a bit 'beyond the beyond!'

                                         Harry C.