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Started by RAI Ranjan
Wed, 06 Jan 1993 19:42
Linear Systems Text
Author: RAI Ranjan
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 19:42
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 19:42
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Hello. I like to get some feedback ;) on what people think of the text Linear System Theory by Frank Callier and C. Desoer. I have just started a Intro. to Linear Systems course, and there is no required textbook for the class. The professor mentioned that this book might be good as a supplement to his lectures. So do people think it's worth the $75 Cdn., or do you think there is some better (and cheaper) text out there I should be aware of? By the way, I have completed the usual systems and signal analysis courses, a course in classical control theory, in which we we used "Feedback and Control Theory" by Doyle, Francis and Tannenbaum as the text, and my math background is sufficient. Also, I plan on doing control stuff in grad school. Many thanks for your help. -- Ranjan Rai <rairan@ecf.toronto.edu> Engineering Science 9T3 <rr@odin.control.toronto.edu> University of Toronto
Re: Linear Systems Text
Author: "M.Akbar", Electrical Engineerin...
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 14:07
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 14:07
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I would reccommend the book by Kailath ie Linear Systems. It is an excellent book with plenty of examples and exercises. I am not sure if it will be cheaper than Desoer's book but I think Kailath's book is one of the best on the subject.
Re: Linear Systems Text
Author: K.C.Goh
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 18:04
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 18:04
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In article <C0G6qt.81u@ecf.toronto.edu> rairan@ecf.toronto.edu (RAI Ranjan) writes:
>Hello. I like to get some feedback ;) on what people think of the text
>Linear System Theory by Frank Callier and C. Desoer. I have just started
>a Intro. to Linear Systems course, and there is no required textbook for the
>class. The professor mentioned that this book might be good as a supplement
>to his lectures.
>
>So do people think it's worth the $75 Cdn., or do you think there is
>some better (and cheaper) text out there I should be aware of?
>
Some very personal opinions :
Callier & Desoer 1991 My favorite. Very good treatment but you need
to have a passable Math background.
e.g. They use operator theory to introduce
controllability etc. Certainly recommended
if you are looking for an up to date serious
reference text.
Kailath 1980 Its supposed to be good but I find it very
disorganized and hard to read. Good treatment
of the transfer function approach but the state
space stuff is disorganized. Also very little stuff
on time varying systems. Might be dated.
C.T. Chen 1984 Introduction at a basic level, with comprehensive
state space treatment. May be a bit dated.
Certainly a bit boring.
Brogan, Skelton etc. I've only quickly glanced at these, but be on your
guard against buying textbooks which are geared
too much to the undergrad level.
Let me say it again, the preceding stuff is all IMHO !
>By the way, I have completed the usual systems and signal analysis courses,
>a course in classical control theory, in which we we used "Feedback and
^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Control Theory" by Doyle, Francis and Tannenbaum as the text, and my math
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>background is sufficient. Also, I plan on doing control stuff in grad
>school.
>
You seem to have a very solid background. I'd take your professor's
advice. U of T : Is your prof B. Francis ?
>Many thanks for your help.
>--
>Ranjan Rai <rairan@ecf.toronto.edu>
>Engineering Science 9T3 <rr@odin.control.toronto.edu>
>University of Toronto
Thanks for the chance to ramble.
Regards,
K. C. Goh
Re: Linear Systems Text
Author: Eduardo Sontag
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 05:08
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 05:08
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Let me add my (self-interested) comment on this: My book: Eduardo D. Sontag, __Mathematical Control Theory: Deterministic Finite Dimensional Systems__ Springer, New York, 1990. (396+xiii pages, ISBN 0-387-97366-4; 3-540-97366-4) Series: Textbooks in Applied Mathematics, Number 6. Hardcover, $39.00 Order in USA from 1-800-SPRINGER (in NJ, 201-348-4033) is geared towards people interested in learning basic linear systems but in the context of NONlinear systems. (Thus, many definitions and elementary properties are given first abstractly; possibly TOO abstractly for many!). Read this if you are interested in a careful mathematical exposition. The book does NOT cover some "advanced linear" topics such as H-infinity optimization, but it does prepare the reader for the WIDE area of control, including things such as discrete-event systems, differential geometric nonlinear methods, algebraic techniques, etc. Table of contents, bibliography, and index are available electronically, for free, from the SCAD Database in Systems and Control: ftp ftp.utdallas.edu, login anonymous, dir pub/scad (lots of other things there as well). Last note: Rugh (Johns Hopkins) just published a new book on Linear Systems, and it seems to be excellent. Also, Delchamps' book is good and covers time-varying systems. None of these were in the lists, I think. -- Eduardo D. Sontag Department of Mathematics Rutgers Center for Systems and Control (SYCON) Rutgers University New Brunswick, NJ 08903, USA (Phone: (908)932-3072; FAX: (908)932-5530) sontag@hilbert.rutgers.edu
Re: Linear Systems Text
Author: Parag Wakankar
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 16:49
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 16:49
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In article <C0G6qt.81u@ecf.toronto.edu> rairan@ecf.toronto.edu (RAI Ranjan) writes: >Hello. I like to get some feedback ;) on what people think of the text >Linear System Theory by Frank Callier and C. Desoer. I have just started >a Intro. to Linear Systems course, and there is no required textbook for the >class. The professor mentioned that this book might be good as a supplement >to his lectures. > I would recommend a book by Wilson J Rugh.Prentice Hall 1993. Excellent book! Lot of examples.Covers a lot of ground. Starting from state equation solution and goes upto Controller Observer forms. Observer design. State and Output feedback and dabbles a little bit into geometric theory and its applications. Very well written. Assumes very little matrix theory knowledge. Good exercises! Price ~ $ 60. Kailath and C.T. Chen are good references.Even Raymond Decarlo is an OK book. Hope this helps Parag
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