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Article #429Re: 1-D M-set
From: Jay R. Hill
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 23:04
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1993 23:04
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In article <1993Aug25.160109.1@vax1.tcd.ie>, ddoff@vax1.tcd.ie writes:
|> In article <1993Aug20.222118.24905@ast.saic.com>,
hilljr@jupiter.saic.com (Jay R. Hill) writes:
|> > I still have not seen an answer to: What portion of the real line has
|> > periodic orbits vs. chaotic. [...]
|>
|> Also, I have never seen an answer to the following question:
|>
|> At the Feigenbaum point -1.401155... the period is infinite.
|> What happens at -1.4011551 ? Is the period still infinite, or
|> is it just a very large number?
|>
|> David
|>
Over the weekend I set up a search for roots and measured them. I used
a step of 0.000001 and found 883 roots. The largest is of course the
big group beginning at 0.25 and ending at -1.401155189092116. The
next largest is the period 3 group beginning at -1.7500 and ending at
-1.77981807582623. There is a sequence of smaller groups of increasing
period approaching the Feigenbaum point -1.401155... They are, as I
found them, (your milage may vary)
period center length
5 -1.62541372512329985 0.0066228465
6 -1.47601464272842226 0.0081079958
10 -1.44700884060747497 0.0015153117
12 -1.41697773125021221 0.0016370175
20 -1.41094075752238787 0.0003165680
24 -1.40453848243146603 0.0003507556
40 -1.40324775485560190 0.0000677301
48 -1.40187943590433779 0.0000749825
80 -1.40160324737520091 0.0000144885
96 -1.40131028712035295 0.0000159479
160 -1.40125114354424653 0.0000030789
192 -1.40118840565423529 0.0000027238
This is just a sort by period/center showing the trend of higher period
small groups as you close in on -1.401155... There are, of course,
lots of small high period ones all thruogh the chaos zone. Here is a
sample of a short segment's population, given the limitations of my search:
36 -1.41233900945901683 0.00000662941854475
44 -1.41266759252386767 0.00000086718374575
48 -1.41296328040860322 0.00000078262283452
28 -1.41317560985195253 0.00003734102051259
84 -1.41321520748675529 0.00000066907186292
48 -1.41340078859585165 0.00000060476842134
36 -1.41391126968165112 0.00000360946976800
40 -1.41440129069275057 0.00000113754015830
52 -1.41466722677394480 0.00000012594349320
32 -1.41482837875823908 0.00001502241509117
56 -1.41522113453335094 0.00000003657497761
40 -1.41534653564583679 0.00000269624474776
44 -1.41581438049726469 0.00000205105791178
And to answer my question: What portion of the real line has periodic
orbits vs. chaotic? My preliminary result show the periodic length
is at least 1.7116.
Warmly,
Jay 'Not tonight honey, I'm lost on a line of real chaos' Hill
--
{ hilljr@jupiter.saic.com } begin writeln(3*ln(640320)/sqrt(163):17:15) end.
void main(){double sqrt(), y=1/sqrt(2.), a=.5, m=1,z; int n=0;
for(;m*=2,z=sqrt(1-y*y),y=(1-z)/(1+z),a=a*(1+y)*(1+y)-m*y,n<4;n++);
printf("%17.15lf\n",1/a);}
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