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Article #430Re: 1-D M-set
From: Jay R. Hill
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 19:13
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 19:13
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In article <1993Aug25.230429.4927@ast.saic.com>,
hilljr@jupiter.saic.com (Jay R. Hill) writes:
|> In article <1993Aug25.160109.1@vax1.tcd.ie>, ddoff@vax1.tcd.ie writes:
|> |> In article <1993Aug20.222118.24905@ast.saic.com>,
|> hilljr@jupiter.saic.com (Jay R. Hill) writes:
|> |> > I still have not seen an answer to: What portion of the real line has
|> |> > periodic orbits vs. chaotic. [...]
|> |>
|> |> Also, I have never seen an answer to the following question:
|> |>
|> |> At the Feigenbaum point -1.401155... the period is infinite.
|> |> What happens at -1.4011551 ? Is the period still infinite, or
|> |> is it just a very large number?
|> |>
|> |> David
|> |>
|> Over the weekend I set up a search for roots and measured them. I used
|> a step of 0.000001 and found 883 roots. The largest is of course the
|> big group beginning at 0.25 and ending at -1.401155189092116. The
|> next largest is the period 3 group beginning at -1.7500 and ending at
|> -1.77981807582623. [...]
|> And to answer my question: What portion of the real line has periodic
|> orbits vs. chaotic? My preliminary result show the periodic length
|> is at least 1.7116.
With a step size of 0.0000002 I find the length which is periodic is
at least 1.61197. Now that is 76% of the length (-2 to .25). If we
consider only the interval (-2 to -1.401155...) 10.1% is periodic.
But a lot is in the period 3 group. As you look between the large
obvious groups you find ever smaller fractions of the real line is
periodic. Removing the period 3 group leaves 5.44% is periodic.
Taking out the largest 7 groups from the interval (-2 to -1.401155...)
we find about 2% is periodic.
Above the Feigenbaum point (toward +) the period is a high power
of 2. Below the point, at a distance epsilon away (epsilon -> 0),
is a cardioid group which is very small. The length of the this
group looks to be about 3.2% of epsilon. So near the Feigenbaum
point which I place near -1.401155189092116 we will find very nearly
96.8% is chaotic. Back to the question:
|> |> What happens at -1.4011551 ? Is the period still infinite, or
|> |> is it just a very large number?
Right at the Feigenbaum point the period is infinite and that is chaotic.
Warmly,
Jay 'Not tonight honey, I'm approaching Feigenbaum's chaos' Hill
{ hilljr@jupiter.saic.com } begin writeln(3*ln(640320)/sqrt(163):17:15) end.
void main(){double sqrt(), y=1/sqrt(2.), a=.5, m=1,z; int n=0;
for(;m*=2,z=sqrt(1-y*y),y=(1-z)/(1+z),a=a*(1+y)*(1+y)-m*y,n<4;n++);
printf("%17.15lf\n",1/a);}
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