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Re: universal written language - a protocol for machine translation

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From: Mike Adams
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 00:00
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Since computers are digital, and visual versus verbal (atleast until recenrly).
Why not have the middle lingo be one of visual means.. I know said this before,
but not to all the NG this email will be going to..

I know more people do not see in the exact same visual spectrum, some people are
color blind, but .

Why not have the intermediary lingo be one of visual/vocal means and not this
primative typed medium?

Did you go to the store?

picture of you, picture of store, question mark.

On my end, it would look like "did you go to the store?"
but to my french friend it would translate into what ever the symbols translate
into french.. Or what he/she has on her/his computer..

Of course if I asked "Did you go to the store"?

It would show:

Symbol for past, picture of my french friends (since it is her/his computer, and
I am the one asking), and a picture of a strore.

Sorry of I over labor the imagery, but I am tired, and want to be clear.


Stefan Mühlbacher wrote:

> Gary Shannon schrieb in Nachricht <927263576.776.5@news.remarQ.com>...
> >
> >Stefan Mühlbacher wrote in message <374476c8.0@news.kabsi.at>...
> >>Lee Sau Dan ~{@nJX6X~} schrieb in Nachricht
> >><7f3e0spise.fsf@faith.csis.hku.hk>...
> >
>
> >Suppose, for example, that most languages have a word for the color "red".
> >It is quite possible that some other language might place the dividing line
> >between red and orange in a different place along the spectrum and have
> >words for red-orange, and yellow-orange, but no word at all for what we
> >would call "pure" red.
>
> In this case I suggest to create global symbol representations for
>
> global_color_red
> global_color_orange
> global_color_yellow
> global_color_red-orange
> global_color_yellow-orange
>
> So all will be just represented as different symbols.
>
> I think examining more examples like this will point out many sources of
> misunderstanding.
>
> But how is the ratio of words that have equivalents in another language to
> the words that have no equivalent?
>
> Is it 10000 : 1, 1000 : 1 or 100 : 1  ?
>
> How much knowledge can be expressed in a natural language that can be also
> expressed in another natural language?
> How much is the rest?
>
> I don't know, but I am shure about the following: The knowledge that can be
> commonly expressed is huge.
>
> -- Stefan

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Subject: Re: universal written language - a protocol for machine translation
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