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Re: Need help with Mongolian (Urdu)

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From: Hubey
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:20
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In article <1992Dec30.212324.3001@leland.Stanford.EDU> alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson) writes:

> 
> Were they?  I was under the impression that they were Persian.
> 
> Why would an invasion by a Turkic group lead to the wide-spread borrowing of
> Persian into the local languages?

Persian had a great deal of influence in Central Asia. In addition,
Iran was ruled for various time periods by Turkic peoples who
assimilated into the Iranian population. The first Persian
dynasty to rule Iran for about 700 years was the last Shah's.
Before that the Kachar (Kojars) ruled it. In any case Persian
had become a court language of the Turkic peoples. Even the
Ottoman language consisted of a huge number of Farsi words. The
present day Azeri and Turkmen and Uzbek languages still have them.

One finds a small number of Turkic words in Urdu like hoja (khwaja)
and the names of many Pakistani's (Yahya Khan, TIkka Khan) have
the Turkic word han(khan). The names of many of the Mogul
rulers (like the Mamluks) had Turkish and Farsis-Arabic words.
Names like Kutluk, Baybars, Kilich can be found among both
Mamluks and Moguls. Taj Mahal is probably combination of Turco-Farsi
or Turco-Hindi (taj is probably from tash=(stone)). I don't
have any books with me but many of the Mogul emperors will be
found to have Turkic names, and the original rulers probably
claimed descent from Genghis Khan.
-- 

	mark	

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From: hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey)
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Subject: Re: Need help with Mongolian (Urdu)
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