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Article #1924Re: postpositive articles in English
From: Rick Turkel
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:06
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:06
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In article <1992Nov19.215659.4152@memstvx1.memst.edu>, connolly@memstvx1.memst.edu writes: |> In article <1992Nov19.190026.937@almserv.uucp>, alufml@fnma.COM |> (Francois-Michel Lang) writes: |> > In French, certain articles can appear either |> > (1) after the noun they modify, in which case |> > the adjective has its basic meaning, or |> > (2) before the noun, in which case the sense |> > of the adjective is metaphorical. |> > |> > E.g., |> > "un sale voleur" (adjective noun) = "a [morally] filthy thief" |> > "un voleur sale" (noun adjective" = "a [physically] filthy thief" |> > |> > Are there are examples of such behaviour in English? It doesn't |> > even have to involve a transfer of sense; just an adjective that |> > can occur both pre-nominally and post-nominally would be good to see. |> > The only example I can come up with is something like "the city proper". |> |> There are some fossilized expressions of this sort in English: |> |> knight errant |> durance vile |> Chicken Little |> |> But these examples are true fossils; other nouns and adjectives cannot |> be substituted, and the adjective cannot be compared. In other words, |> there is no _*knight peripatetic_ or _*musician errant_, and certainly |> no _*durance vilest_. _Proper_ is unusual, perhaps unique, in that it |> is only postpositive in this usage and can be used after many other nouns |> than _city_. But even _proper_ cannot then be compared (_*city most |> proper_). |> |> --Leo Connolly There are a few others, like surgeon general, attorney general, secretary general, etc., which are relatively new coinages, so I don't think "fossil" is quite the right word, but this certainly isn't a particularly productive formation. -- Rick Turkel (___ ____ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ ___ (rmt51@cas.org) ) | | \ ) |/ \ | | | \_) | (rmt51@cas.bitnet) / | _| __)/ | __) | ___|_ | _( \ | Ein navi be`iro. |
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Newsgroups: sci.lang Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!malgudi.oar.net!chemabs!rmt51 From: rmt51@cas.org (Rick Turkel) Subject: Re: postpositive articles in English Message-ID: <1992Nov20.210606.17249@cas.org> Sender: usenet@cas.org Reply-To: rmt51@cas.org Organization: S.W.I.G. References: <1992Nov19.190026.937@almserv.uucp> <1992Nov19.215659.4152@memstvx1.memst.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:06:06 GMT Lines: 45