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Article #1926Re: postpositive articles in English
From: Rich Alderson
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:37
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:37
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In article <1992Nov20.130245.4164@memstvx1.memst.edu>, connolly@memstvx1 writes:
>In article <1992Nov20.165547.26076@leland.Stanford.EDU>, alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov19.215659.4152@memstvx1.memst.edu>, connolly@memstvx1 writes:
>>>There are some fossilized expressions of this sort in English:
>>>
>>> knight errant
>>> durance vile
>>> Chicken Little
>>>
>>>But these examples are true fossils; other nouns and adjectives cannot
>>>be substituted, and the adjective cannot be compared. In other words,
>>>there is no _*knight peripatetic_ or _*musician errant_, and certainly
>>>no _*durance vilest_. _Proper_ is unusual, perhaps unique, in that it
>>>is only postpositive in this usage and can be used after many other nouns
>>>than _city_. But even _proper_ cannot then be compared (_*city most
>>>proper_).
>>>
>>>--Leo Connolly
>>
>> There is, on the other hand, _durance most vile_.
>
>Gee, I missed that one! Or did I? Maybe not. The darned thing lacks
>a determiner, without which there is no superlative meaning. Now _most_
>is used for other things than to form suppletive superlatives. Perhaps
>it is. What do you lurkers think?
How would you characterize "most" in such sentences as
I am most unhappy with that analysis
then?
I get two readings, by the bye.
--
Rich Alderson 'I wish life was not so short,' he thought. 'Languages take
such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
--J. R. R. Tolkien,
alderson@leland.stanford.edu _The Lost Road_
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Newsgroups: sci.lang Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!stanford.edu!leland.Stanford.EDU!alderson From: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson) Subject: Re: postpositive articles in English In-Reply-To: connolly@memstvx1.memst.edu Message-ID: <1992Nov20.233755.8867@leland.Stanford.EDU> Originator: alderson@leland.Stanford.EDU Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News) Reply-To: alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson) Organization: Stanford University Academic Information Resources References: <1992Nov19.190026.937@almserv.uucp> <1992Nov19.215659.4152@memstvx1.memst.edu> <1992Nov20.165547.26076@leland.Stanford.EDU> <1992Nov20.130245.4164@memstvx1.memst.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:37:55 GMT Lines: 38