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Article #2085Re: Tones in PIE?
From: Erland Sommarskog
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 11:42
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 11:42
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Rich Alderson (alderson@cisco.com) writes: >First, lets make our terminology more precise: Lithuanian, Latvian, certain >Slavic languages, ancient Greek, and Vedic Sanskrit are supposed to have (or >have had) *pitch contours*, rather than *tones* as that term is usually used. So let me ignorant layman ask: how would you describe the two different accents in Swedish, are they tones or pitch contours? Not that I'm questioning anything, I just want to be able to relate to something I know. From where you wrote elsewhere, I would guess the answer in the latter. >The final upshot of all this is that we usually reconstruct the PIE accent >as a pitch rise based on the Greek and Sanskrit evidence for its pitch nature. >In addition, the oldest Indo-European languages do not show the kinds of vowel >reductions we expect from a stress accent, as in the history of Germanic or >Latin, or the Romance languages. Again, I want something to relate to. Do I understand right that none of the accents in ancient Greek are the same as the one single accent as Romance and West-Germanic languages? (And which is one of the two possible in Swedish?) (Of course, I could have mailed these questions to Rich directly, but I figured that there might be more ignorant and interested laymen around.) -- Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
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Newsgroups: sci.lang Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.at!hp4at!mcsun!sunic!seunet!enea!sommar From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) Subject: Re: Tones in PIE? Message-ID: <1993Jan24.114225.28870@enea.se> Organization: Enea Data AB References: <1993Jan16.185630.25871@enea.se> <1993Jan20.184737.15289@leland.Stanford.EDU> Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 11:42:25 GMT Lines: 26