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Article #2086Re: Bulgarians - descendents of a Finnis tribe?
From: Scott C DeLancey
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 23:57
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 23:57
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In article <Jan.4.16.54.01.1993.22727@pilot.njin.net> hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey) writes: >In article <1993Jan4.205115.8521@leland.Stanford.EDU> alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson) writes: > >> In article <1993Jan4.071434.27930@jyu.fi>, ryyti@jyu (Jarmo Ryyti) writes: >> >Rich Alderson (alderson@cisco.com) wrote: > >> In the nineteenth century, one accepted methodology for positing relationship >> among languages was morphological typology--the famous "inflecting" versus >> "agglutinating" versus "isolating" spectrum. However, it was shown *during the >> nineteenth century* that this is *not* a reasonable methodology. >> > > >Would you please explain the basis for the original confidence in >the methodology and then the later loss of confidence ? What >makes it unreasonable as a measure. > The morphological and syntactic typology of a language can change over time (e.g. from highly inflected, loosely SOV Old English to fairly isolating, strongly SVO Modern English). Therefore it's not unusual to find considerable typological variation among demonstrably related languages: isolating Chinese and agglutinative Tibeto-Burman (both Sino-Tibetan), isolating Khmer and Vietnamese and agglutinative Munda (both Austroasiatic), isolating (Modern) English, inflecting Russian, and agglutinative Bengali (all Indo-European). Since we don't find a reliable correlation between typlogical profile and genetic relationship in cases where we have independent knowledge of relationship, there's obviously no reason to trust it when we don't. Scott DeLancey delancey@darkwing.uoregon.edu Department of Linguistics University of Oregon
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!sgiblab!cs.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!darkwing.uoregon.edu!delancey From: delancey@darkwing.uoregon.edu (Scott C DeLancey) Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Bulgarians - descendents of a Finnis tribe? Date: 5 Jan 1993 23:57:38 GMT Organization: University of Oregon Network Services Lines: 34 Message-ID: <1id79iINNdif@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <1993Jan4.071434.27930@jyu.fi> <1993Jan4.205115.8521@leland.Stanford.EDU> <Jan.4.16.54.01.1993.22727@pilot.njin.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: darkwing.uoregon.edu