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Re: "n'ha" == "daughter of" ? Language?

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From: Rich Alderson
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 00:21
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In article <4490003@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, zornow@hpcc01 (Claudia Zornow) writes:
>> I'm curious about the middle name "n'ha" in the quote I'm using
>> in my signature file. I'm told it means "daughter of" but I can't
>> find it in any reference. What language is it? Is there an
>> equivalent for "son of" in the same language? Inquiring minds
>> want to know!
>
>> Adams Douglas   | Always tell the truth, | You can die like the rest,
>> adamsd@         | then you make it the   | or be one of the best.
>> crash.cts.com   | other bloke's problem! | - Cyndi n'ha June, 1992
>> Chula Vista, CA | - Sean Connery, 1971   |
>
>The "n'ha" usage comes from Marion Zimmer Bradley's Darkover series
>of science fiction novels.  I don't know whether she made it up or
>got it from some known language.  She has a set of female characters
>called Renunciates, or Free Amazons, who have made themselves
>independent of the strictures normally imposed on women of Darkover,
>and who change their names to show matrilineal descent.

There are two languages in use in Bradley's Darkover novels, Portuguese and
Gaelic.  Gaelic is the secret/private/it's-been-too-long-and-I-don't-remember-
which language of the _Comyn_ (which, as we learn in _Darkover Landfall_, is
the remains of a Gaelic-language commune).

But it's never made clear whether she means Irish or Scottish, or some combina-
tion of both brought about by political pressures in her vision of the future.

Do you know for a fact that "Cyndi n'ha June" is influenced by Bradley?
-- 
Rich Alderson   'I wish life was not so short,' he thought.  'Languages take
                such a time, and so do all the things one wants to know about.'
                                                        --J. R. R. Tolkien,
alderson@leland.stanford.edu                              _The Lost Road_
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Subject: Re: "n'ha" == "daughter of" ? Language?
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