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Article #2189Re: Definitions of terms that have bothered Mark Hubey
From: John O'Neil
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 05:33
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 05:33
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In article <1993Jan8.002157.20841@leland.Stanford.EDU> alderson@cisco.com (Rich Alderson) writes: [omitting several sage definitions (not to disparage this one)] There are a number of ways to divvy up the field of linguistics. One major division is that between synchronic and diachronic studies (Saussure 1916). This is a distinction between the study of speech in a single time-frame versus the study of speech across time-frames. That's one dimension. Across this dichotomy is a breakdown by special area of interest: Phonetics to pragmatics -- that's the second dimension. The synchronic side is generally referred to as "theoretical" linguis- tics, although there are theories on the diachronic side as well. This group of studies is susceptible of investigation by experimentation, either instrumented (as, for example, acoustic phonetics) or introspec- tive (as, for example, acceptability judgments in syntax). The diachronic side--the study of languages in a temporal dimension-- uses the results garnered by "theoretical" linguistics, but in addition uses methodologies similar to those of other *historical* studies, methodologies which simply do not admit of mathematical manipulation. You may want to consider a third dimension of labelling, instead of just using the "theoretical" label. That is, the dimension of 'pure' linguistics versus psycho-, socio-, neuro-, mathematical, and computational linguistics (along with other hyphenated variations which I have neglected.) Thus, we are able to give a label to such sub-fields as diachronic socio-phonology, for example. Along this dimension we might want to include 'theoretical' linguistics, although the term 'theoretical' is used in a somewhat unexpected way in linguistics, in comparaison to other sciences. In physics, say, a theoretical physicists is usually occupied with comparing different theories and their structures -- as if one were comparing GB to LFG, for instance, or discussing the abstract properties of some formalism. However, this activity is usually considered mathematical linguistics or formal language theory by linguists, who reserve the term theoretical linguistics for activities which are really more concerned with accounting for experimental or observational data within a formalism. I don't want to imply that that's a bad thing, or that we linguists should change our usages to conform with other fields, but I just wanted to bring it up. -- John O'Neil "Occasionally I believed I had thoughts of my own -- who does not now and then become the victim of such delusions?" -- Paul Feyerabend
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!das-news.harvard.edu!husc-news.harvard.edu!husc-news!oneil From: oneil@husc10.harvard.edu (John O'Neil) Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Definitions of terms that have bothered Mark Hubey Message-ID: <ONEIL.93Jan7213354@husc10.harvard.edu> Date: 8 Jan 93 05:33:54 GMT Article-I.D.: husc10.ONEIL.93Jan7213354 References: <1993Jan8.002157.20841@leland.Stanford.EDU> Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA Lines: 52 Nntp-Posting-Host: husc10.harvard.edu In-reply-to: alderson@cisco.com's message of Fri, 8 Jan 93 00:21:57 GMT