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Article #2190Re: Subject and object confusion (Was: Re: "n'ha"...)
From: Stan Friesen
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:52
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:52
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In article <1993Jan25.093751.5191@memstvx1.memst.edu>, connolly@memstvx1.memst.edu writes: |> |> Strangely, an SVO reading for that example is quite unlikely, in my opinion. |> Indefinite subjects can precede the verb, though they are not likely to |> do so; but there's a logical problem: SVO would, to me, entail that the |> cat then took some action because it had seen Tom: "A cat saw Tom and |> reported this to the proper authorities." However, I wouldn't |> find this entailment with a verb such as _beobachten_ 'observe', though |> I don't know why not. The normal way to say 'A cat saw Tom' is: |> |> Dann hat eine Katze Tom gesehen. |> |> This can only be read as XVSO, not XVOS: word order disambiguates in |> this instance (which is not to say that XVOS is not legal with a few |> verbs such as _gefallen_ 'be pleasing', provided that O is definite). Interesting. This seems to make a case for German being fundamentally an [X]VSO language, with the initial position tending to indicate topicality. That is, your interpretation of 'Eine Katze sah Tom' is as a form that *introduces* a new topical entity, the cat. (Which is only meaningful if you intend to say *more* about the cat, as you suggest above]. The alternate form has a 'filler' (dann) in the initial position, and thus lacks any topical element. I tend to read the 'dann ..' form as being rather generic, or 'remote'. -- sarima@teradata.com (formerly tdatirv!sarima) or Stanley.Friesen@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!tdat!tools3!swf From: swf@tools3teradata.com (Stan Friesen) Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Subject and object confusion (Was: Re: "n'ha"...) Message-ID: <1800@tdat.teradata.COM> Date: 28 Jan 93 16:52:33 GMT References: <1993Jan21.101921.5122@memstvx1.memst.edu> <1993Jan21.233044.4465@trl.oz.au> <librik.727687762@cory.Berkeley.EDU> <1993Jan24.115746.29666@enea.se> <1993Jan25.093751.5191@memstvx1.memst.edu> Sender: news@tdat.teradata.COM Distribution: world Organization: NCR Teradata Database Business Unit Lines: 31