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Article #2272Re: Classical Latin and Vulgate (was Re: Morphological ...)
From: connolly
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:28
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:28
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In article <C0pzMG.HFn@athena.cs.uga.edu>, mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes: > In article <1993Jan12.015941.23724@leland.Stanford.EDU> alderson@elaine46.Stanford.EDU (Rich Alderson) writes: >>In article <1993Jan8.151334.6482@desire.wright.edu>, w0318@desire writes: >> >>>Also, for you Latin buffs, what are the general differences between Classical >>>Latin (of Cicero, say) and the Vulgate? >> >>Subject matter. > > Also, different ways of introducing subordinate clauses. Less use > of _cum_, more use of _ut_ and _quod_ (if memory serves me right). A key syntactic point: abandonment of the accusative + infinitive con- struction, used in CL for indirect discourse, in favor of noun clauses. A full discussion would take a book. Here are a few points off the top of my head: 1. The syntax of the Vulgate is always somewhat suspect because it is a translation, and not always a successful one. O'Neill (did I get that right?) noted that the Vulgate is much easier to read than Cicero. True, except for the Psalms, which are so scrambled as to be quite unintelligible in spots. (If memory serves, the reason is that St. Jerome never touched them, retaining the older translations that Christians were used to, whether they understood them or not.) The Psalms are so bad that the Vatican actually released a new Latin transla- tion of them about 1950, which was intelligible but didn't flow. 2. The phonology of the Vulgate was quite different, but this is difficult to see from printed editions, which use classical spelling. Some changes: loss of h, oe > e:, ae > E: (open), assibilation of ti before vowels, palatalization and affri- cation of /k g/ before front vowels (old or new), [w] > v, fricative realization of /b d g/ between vowels, lengthening of stressed short vowels, with various mergers occurring in different parts of the Roman world. This is more thorough- going than the syntax, but it's largely invisible to the modern reader. 3. Many changes in vocabulary. Usually the new word is retained in Romance, while the classical one is lost. Instead of _edere_ 'eat' we find _manducare_ (Fr. _manger_, Ital. _mangiare_) and _comedere_ (Sp. _comer_). 4. Classical forms of nouns, adjectives, and verbs are retained in the Vulgate, though there is some reason to think that this did not reflect everyday speech, which may already have been down to a two-case system. This is a very incomplete list, but it gives some idea. -Leo Connolly
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gatech!emory!cs.utk.edu!memstvx1!connolly From: connolly@memstvx1.memst.edu Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Classical Latin and Vulgate (was Re: Morphological ...) Message-ID: <1993Jan12.082842.4979@memstvx1.memst.edu> Date: 12 Jan 93 08:28:42 -0600 References: <1993Jan8.151334.6482@desire.wright.edu> <1993Jan12.015941.23724@leland.Stanford.EDU> <C0pzMG.HFn@athena.cs.uga.edu> Organization: Memphis State University Lines: 54