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Article #264Re: Karandash/Caran d'Ache
From: David J Birnbaum
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1992 14:13
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1992 14:13
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In article <1992Aug4.124530.21268@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> tom@bim.itc.univie.ac.at (Tom Kovar) writes: >> There is a French (or possibly Swiss) pencil-making company that >> call their product "Caran d'Ache". Is this derived from the >> Russian "karandash"? > > Vice versa. Caran d'Ache was the first corporation, selling pencils in >Russia, thus the word was derived from the name of the corp. A Swiss one, >btw. Russian karandash is reliably attested as both 'graphite' and 'pencil' from the second half of the seventeenth century (the dictionaries list one questionable citation from 1489, as well). Is this dating consistent with the history of the Swiss corporation in question? --David ======================================================================= Professor David J. Birnbaum djbpitt@vms.cis.pitt.edu [Internet] The Royal York Apartments, #802 djbpitt@pittvms.bitnet [Bitnet] 3955 Bigelow Boulevard voice: 1-412-687-4653 Pittsburgh, PA 15123 USA fax: 1-412-624-9714
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!lll-winken!iggy.GW.Vitalink.COM!widener!dsinc!pitt.edu!djbpitt From: djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum) Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: Karandash/Caran d'Ache Message-ID: <4204@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> Date: 4 Aug 92 14:13:54 GMT References: <1992Aug4.065457.16547@dde.dk> <1992Aug4.124530.21268@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> Sender: news+@pitt.edu Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 22