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Article #265Re: Alfred E. Neuman sentences
From: connolly
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1992 15:32
Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1992 15:32
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In article <markrose.712863793@spssig>, markrose@spss.com (Mark Rosenfelder) writes:
> All of the examples of this construction presented so far seem to have
> something in common semantically: "Pron VP" can be paraphrased
> "You expect Pron to VP?"
>
> What, me worry?
> What, you expect me to worry?
>
> Him {learn Russian | break the habits of a lifetime}?
> You expect him to {learn Russian | break the habits of a lifetime}?
Are you suggesting that "You expect ... to" has been deleted? I guess
not, in view of the following; but then why bother?
> Can anyone find examples where the construction has a different meaning?
> Better yet, is there any idiom for which the construction might be an
> ellipsis or, dare I say it, a transformation?
I don't know of any examples and am reluctant to posit elipsis. As for
transformations: if anything, it's the *lack* of *expected* transforma-
tions that distinguishes the construction.
[stuff omitted]
> It also seems that the construction can only occur in the main clause:
>
> *Me worry is impossible.
> *I can't see him learn Russian.
> but cf.: I can't see him learning Russian.
The sequence, of course, occurs quite frequently; the question is whether
the following contain the same construction or something different.
I saw him go into the house.
I made him learn Russian.
I let them stay home.
I suspect the complement of_see_, _make_, and _let_ is this construction.
Note that these sentences do not passivize: the first two do so awkwardly,
but only if _to_ is inserted, the last not at all. Passivization would
be expected if the objective pronoun even remotely resembled a direct
object of the matrix verb.
He was seen ??to / *0 go into the house.
He was made ?to / *0 learn Russian.
*They were let (to) stay home.
--Leo Connolly
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