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Article #2729Re: help with cantonese words
From: Zhong Qiyao
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 00:00
Date: Thu, 07 Dec 1995 00:00
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I would suggest you ask a Cantonese friend instead of posting
it to the network. There is a list of proposed I.P.A. spelling for
Cantonese and Mandarin posted in "sci.lang" a weew ago.
jvaux@metz.une.edu.au (Julie Vaux) wrote:
> R. 8 the lid -- in a reprint of an old missionary dictionary
> I found a note that its called t'au or luk
> can anyone confirm this?
Tone symbol guide: = ping / shang \ qu | ru, - yin * zhong + yang.
Never heard of this. I only think of:
~{��~} <goi -\> [kOi 33]; or:
~{ڢ��ɽ~} <kem -/> [k'@m 35].
> r.17 the HOLE - is this KAM?KAN written with a different >character
> in modern writing?
I can only think of:
~{��~} <lung -=> [luN 55].
> r.22 are there cantonese words meaning the following -
> hong - hollow or hop - box?
They are exacty the Mandarin characters:
~{��~} <hung -=> [huN 55], and:
~{��~} <heb +|> [h@p 22].
> r.23 is HIde/conceal ni or an in cantonese?
"I hide myself" is:
~{��~} <na"i -=> [nei 55], or:
<ni -=> [ni 55], as in:
~{����~} <na"i -= mai +=> [nei 55 mai 11]; or:
<ni -= mai +=> [ni 55 mai 11].
"I hide something" is usually:
~{����~} <seu -= mai +=> [s@u 55 mai 11].
> 26 - the joint/section/node - one dictionary says tsit ?!
> whats the modern cantonese equivalent of jie in >manadarin?
"Section" is usually:
~{��~} <zid +|> [tsit 22], or more colloquially:
~{�ӣ�~} <gu"d +|> [kyt 22].
"Joint" in more like "mouth of connexion":
~{����~} <bog *| heu -/> [pOk 33 h@u 35].
"Node" sounds like a technical tern and I think borrows from
Mandarin:
~{��~} <zid *|> [tsit 33].
> 27 the cliff or slope wide - han or guang in mandarin = ?
Cannot work this one out. Could you spell the tones out in
Mandarin?
> 89 - mix shears yao = ??
Do not know about mixing wool, but "mix" is usually:
~{��~} <keu -=> [k'@u 55], and:
~{��~} <lou -=> [lou 55]?
> 105 outspread or climbing legs / climb = ?
~{ſ~} <pa -=> [p'a 55], lie facing down; or:
~{��~} <pa +=> [p'a 11], climb.
> if talking about calligraphy which cantonese term would you use
> to describe r.162 - walk "long foot" cho
~{����~} <heng += su" -=> [h@N 11 sy 55], running style; or:
~{����~} <cou -/ su" -=> [ts'ou 35 sy 55], grass style; or:
~{�ʲ�~} <liu -/ cou -/> [liu 35 ts'ou 35], almost illegible.
> r.204 zhi or feng - to sew = cantonese ?
~{֯~} <zig -|> [tsik 55], to sew a shirt; or:
~{����~} <lu"n +=> [lyn 11], to sew two sides together.
> r. 205 what is the cantonese term for frog toad or amphibian?
> Min meng or mian ???
Cannot figure out your question. They should mostly be the same
characters as in Mandarin. What is your Mandarin?
*Zhong* Qiyao, Xinzhu, Taiwan
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