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Re: Northern/Southern Cal linguistic split

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From: Eugene N. Miya
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 01:57
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In article <hatunenCo7EB6.1o6@netcom.com> hatunen@netcom.com
(DaveHatunen) writes:
>Question for old-timers: did the original freeways, like the Harbor,
>originally also have numbers (state highway numbers, I would assume).

Can you speak up sonny? ;^)

The Harbor was 11.  I5 was always 5.  As was US101 and SR1 (PCH).  What I find
amusing growing up was the so called "Imperial Highway."  I never found it
Imperial or much of a highway.  One can see that El Camino Real is one
road which binds a lot of the state.  Much of the states' history is
tied to it and for instance the Missions.  I watched Artesia (91) go
from a two lane road to a freeway (on my last drive to SIGGRAPH in Anaheim).
Driving to Dizzyland was past diary farms and orange orchards, and I remember
the day the Watts riots broke out one August (one could see these columns
of smoke) from 91 (possibly the closest I have seen urban combat with tanks
(Walker M41 bulldogs and others) on LA streets).  Knott's Berry farm was
just that, a farm.  Dizzy was Dizzy, and there was the Japanese Deer Park
(no more).  It used to be a real hassle to drive from LA to either
San Diego or Santa Barbara (where later I was attending grad school and working
in Pasadena with a 2 hr commute to work part time).

My mental maps of cities are based on their freeway systems.  Terrible
in a way.  WDC: a circle with outward radiating freeways (we are lucky
not to have many toll roads in the state); water forms a basis for cities like
SD, SF/SJ, and Seattle; Denver is just a cross of intersecting roads (okay
with a 315 deg road to Boulder; LA is a set of small plains with roads
going every where.  This is an amusing cartographic research problem.

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