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Article #2929Re: Northern/Southern Cal linguistic split
From: Rich Hill
Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 22:39
Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 22:39
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In article <2q97e7$mlp@kraz.usc.edu> karl@kraz.usc.edu (Karl Geiger) writes: >In article <2q7el0$lhj@gap.cco.caltech.edu> addam@cco.caltech.edu (Adam Neil Villani) writes: >> >>OK, here's one. As I was finishing up an extended weekend road trip yesterday, >>coming down the 101, shortly after entering Ventura County from Santa Barbara >>County, I noticed a sign that said, "Begin Ventura Freeway". Maybe a mile >>or so later, there was another "End Freeway" sign. Here's the question: what's >>the road called for the stretch of the 101 in Ventura County that's _not_ >>freeway? Ventura Highway, or Expressway, or Freeway, or what? I'm assuming >>that the "Begin Ventura Freeway" sign was the end of the Cabrillo Highway/ >>Freeway/Whatever. > >This is anecdotal, but here goes: > >Roughly speaking, a freeway is a high-speed, limited access roadway. >Limited access means no crossroads, parking, and travel is restricted >to vehicles that can maintain speeds > 45 mph (yep, the CHP cites >folks going too slowly). Older on-ramps still have posted signs >reading "PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLES, MOTOR-DRIVEN CYCLES PROHIBITED". > >Between Santa Barbara and Ventura, stretches of the road are the ONLY >way to get between points, so I think the State relaxes vehicle >restrictions; consequently, the highway is no longer a freeway and >cyclists cannot get ticketed for riding it. Bicycles are allowed on freeways if there is no other easy option. There is no need to make that portion of road a highway instead of a freeway. Portions of I-80 in the Sierras and Hwy 1 near Morro Bay (among others) are freeway but allow bicycles. Usually, the reason for the END FREEWAY signs is simply because of an intersection with a minor road that is not limited access (no bridge, onramps, etc.)
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd3ff,899d5058dc4d426a X-Google-Attributes: gidfd3ff,public X-Google-Thread: 10a20a,3991695550f96f40 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a20a,public X-Google-Thread: 10001a,899d5058dc4d426a X-Google-Attributes: gid10001a,public X-Google-Thread: 107d03,3991695550f96f40 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d03,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-05-04 15:58:03 PST Newsgroups: sci.lang,ca.driving,ba.transportation,la.general Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!bga.com!news.sprintlink.net!hookup!yeshua.marcam.com!MathWorks.Com!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!darwin.sura.net!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!s101dcascr!news.ucdavis.edu!madrone.ece.ucdavis.edu!hill From: hill@madrone.ece.ucdavis.edu (Rich Hill) Subject: Re: Northern/Southern Cal linguistic split Message-ID: <CpAuxo.31K@ucdavis.edu> Sender: usenet@ucdavis.edu (News Guru) Organization: U.C. Davis - Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science References: <2on072$bud@rome.raynet.com> <2q7el0$lhj@gap.cco.caltech.edu> <2q97e7$mlp@kraz.usc.edu> Distribution: na Date: Wed, 4 May 1994 22:39:24 GMT Lines: 35