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Re: Northern/Southern Cal linguistic split

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From: Rich Hill
Date: Wed, 04 May 1994 22:39
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In article <2q97e7$mlp@kraz.usc.edu> karl@kraz.usc.edu (Karl Geiger) writes:
>In article <2q7el0$lhj@gap.cco.caltech.edu> addam@cco.caltech.edu (Adam Neil Villani) writes:
>>
>>OK, here's one. As I was finishing up an extended weekend road trip yesterday,
>>coming down the 101, shortly after entering Ventura County from Santa Barbara
>>County, I noticed a sign that said, "Begin Ventura Freeway". Maybe a mile
>>or so later, there was another "End Freeway" sign. Here's the question: what's
>>the road called for the stretch of the 101 in Ventura County that's _not_
>>freeway? Ventura Highway, or Expressway, or Freeway, or what? I'm assuming
>>that the "Begin Ventura Freeway" sign was the end of the Cabrillo Highway/
>>Freeway/Whatever.
>
>This is anecdotal, but here goes:
>
>Roughly speaking, a freeway is a high-speed, limited access roadway.
>Limited access means no crossroads, parking, and travel is restricted
>to vehicles that can maintain speeds > 45 mph (yep, the CHP cites
>folks going too slowly).  Older on-ramps still have posted signs
>reading "PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLES, MOTOR-DRIVEN CYCLES PROHIBITED".
>
>Between Santa Barbara and Ventura, stretches of the road are the ONLY
>way to get between points, so I think the State relaxes vehicle
>restrictions; consequently, the highway is no longer a freeway and
>cyclists cannot get ticketed for riding it.  


Bicycles are allowed on freeways if there is no other easy option.  There is
no need to make that portion of road a highway instead of a freeway.  
Portions of I-80 in the Sierras and Hwy 1 near Morro Bay (among others)
are freeway but allow bicycles.

Usually, the reason for the END FREEWAY signs is simply because of an
intersection with a minor road that is not limited access (no bridge, 
onramps, etc.)
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