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Article #3032Re: use and meaning of "etang" in French
From: Peter T. Daniels
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 00:00
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 1998 00:00
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Ross Clark wrote: > > This is confusing enough already, but I thought I'd point out that there > is another French word, "lagon". My Petit Robert says its an 18th century > borrowing from Spanish lagοΏ½n. If this were the immediate source of > the English word, it would better account for both pronunciation and > spelling (compare dragoon, cocoon, etc.). The Robert entries for the two > French words are interesting -- it looks like one of those pairs of words > that lexicographers feel ought to have some clear difference of meaning, > but where usage is just hopelessly inconsistent: > The 10th Collegiate says lagoon < Fr. & It. (resp. lagune, laguna) -- that "&" is most peculiar! -- attested 1673, suggesting that the 18th-c. lagon is too late to be relevant. I can't find my American Heritage! Random House 2nd ed. (where the etymologies were done by a platoon of Chicago grad students reporting to Eric Hamp) has a rather different story: 1605-15; earlier laguna (sing.), lagune (pl.) < It < L lacuna, -ae ditch, pool ... That sent me to the OED, which has the earlier stuff ... so what were the Merriam-Webster people thinkin'? -- Peter T. Daniels grammatim@worldnet.att.net
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