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Re: Plural in spoken French (was: How to listen to French)

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From: ocrat
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 1998 00:00
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In article <351ae17c.2685035@news.student.lu.se>, Stephane Di Cesare wrote:
>On Wed, 25 Mar 1998 23:42:05 +0000, Neil Coffey
><neil.coffey@st-annes.ox.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <351837f9.1037314@news.student.lu.se>, Stephane Di Cesare
>><URL:mailto:cie96sdc@student2.lu.se> wrote:
>>
>>> Pour ce coup-la, Francoise a raison, "je ne suis pas d'accord que" est
>>> incorrect. On dit "etre d'accord sur (qqch.)".
>>
>Pourquoi? Je n'en ai pas la moindre idee. Toujours est-il qu'un francais
>ne dirait pas "etre d'accord que".

Using the hotbot.com search engine with "exact phrase" setting, and
searching for "pas d'accord que" or "pas d'accord qu'on" turns up
numerous instances, including official transcripts of debate in
Canada's Parliament, Quebec's National Assembly, and even the French
Senate, as well as some official documents.  I am surprised to hear
that it is considered incorrect.

Perhaps it's more common in Canada.  I will crosspost to can.francais
for reactions.

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From: ocrat@b5nmc.ocrat.com ()
Subject: Re: Plural in spoken French (was: How to listen to French)
Date: 1998/03/27
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