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Re: What is a syllable?

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From: Matti Linnanvuori
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 16:46
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In <Bwz0r2.2tL@nic.umass.edu> zgilbert@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Zvi Gilbert) writes:
>>  In Finnish, every syllable contains a vowel, a double vowel or diphthong.
>Check.  Does Finnish permit sonorants like /l/ and /n/ to head a syllable?

  /l/ or /n/ don't form syllables without in Finnish, if that's what you
meant. An uneducated guess, why not: Finnish doesn't include schwa vowels.

>>The adjacent vowels created by the deletion of 'k' do not form a diphthong.
>Okay.  That's fine.  (Except that the 'k' has no referent since you haven't
>given any examples.)
 
There is a list of vowel pairs that qualify as diphthongs, taught at
school.
  Some vowel pairs whose latter part is e, occur only because of a
deletion of 'k',  or when -e is a suffix. They are not diphthongs.
ae: ja-e : ja-keen
a"e: sa"-e: sa"-keen
ue: lu-en: lu-kee , puo-lu-e

>>  The consonants are assigned a syllable like this: V-CV, VC-CV, VCC-C.
>                                                     ^^^^   ^^^^  ^^^^^
>                                                     Fine   Fine   ????
>That last one seems to have no vowel.  What does that structure mean?

  It seems that the only the last consonant belongs to the latter syllable,
like some people said about Swedish and Hungarian. I meant VCC-CV.
Also, I believe VCCC-CV (konst-ruktio). VCC-CCCV could be an
exception of the last consonant rule, but it is present only in some
compound loan words, like post-strukturalismi. 

>This makes no sense either.  Syllabification happens to ALL segments in ALL 
>languages, all the time.  It can't happen *more* in one language than another;

  I'm not a linguist. I don't know how phonemes are syllabificated. 
I only wrote about how words are split into syllables in writing. 
In Finnish syllables are written split with dashes more often than in
English.


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