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Article #40Re: What is a syllable?
From: Matti Linnanvuori
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 16:46
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 16:46
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In <Bwz0r2.2tL@nic.umass.edu> zgilbert@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Zvi Gilbert) writes: >> In Finnish, every syllable contains a vowel, a double vowel or diphthong. >Check. Does Finnish permit sonorants like /l/ and /n/ to head a syllable? /l/ or /n/ don't form syllables without in Finnish, if that's what you meant. An uneducated guess, why not: Finnish doesn't include schwa vowels. >>The adjacent vowels created by the deletion of 'k' do not form a diphthong. >Okay. That's fine. (Except that the 'k' has no referent since you haven't >given any examples.) There is a list of vowel pairs that qualify as diphthongs, taught at school. Some vowel pairs whose latter part is e, occur only because of a deletion of 'k', or when -e is a suffix. They are not diphthongs. ae: ja-e : ja-keen a"e: sa"-e: sa"-keen ue: lu-en: lu-kee , puo-lu-e >> The consonants are assigned a syllable like this: V-CV, VC-CV, VCC-C. > ^^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^ > Fine Fine ???? >That last one seems to have no vowel. What does that structure mean? It seems that the only the last consonant belongs to the latter syllable, like some people said about Swedish and Hungarian. I meant VCC-CV. Also, I believe VCCC-CV (konst-ruktio). VCC-CCCV could be an exception of the last consonant rule, but it is present only in some compound loan words, like post-strukturalismi. >This makes no sense either. Syllabification happens to ALL segments in ALL >languages, all the time. It can't happen *more* in one language than another; I'm not a linguist. I don't know how phonemes are syllabificated. I only wrote about how words are split into syllables in writing. In Finnish syllables are written split with dashes more often than in English. --
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Newsgroups: sci.lang Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!news.funet.fi!funic!news.cs.hut.fi!sandman.cs.hut.fi!linnan From: linnan@sandman.cs.hut.fi (Matti Linnanvuori) Subject: Re: What is a syllable? Message-ID: <1992Oct31.164636.29788@cs.hut.fi> Keywords: syllable Sender: usenet@cs.hut.fi (Uutis Ankka) Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab References: <Oct.29.12.47.57.1992.19393@pilot.njin.net> <1992Oct30.194213.17728@cs.hut.fi> <Bwz0r2.2tL@nic.umass.edu> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 16:46:36 GMT Lines: 41