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Article #5097Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: c.leroy
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:54
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:54
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Alas, Mr. Farey's chagrin arising on p. 6 of Roper's "Cryptology" (see corrected URL below) is dispelled when reading p. 7 where the solution of a *second* encrypted text is explained: On Mar 25, 11:31 am, "Peter Farey" <pete...@rey.prestel.co.uk> wrote: > <c.le...@rocketmail.com> wrote: > > > 2. Ben Jonson's inscription on the Stratford Monument contains > > a cryptogram in the form of a Cardano Grille revealing de Vere > > as the author of the works ascribed to William Shakespeare. > > <http://www.dlroper.shakespearians.com/Cryptology%2021.10.pdf> > > This solution shown by Roper is unique and meets the requirements > > of a valid Shakespearean cipher set forth by the Friedmans in the > > 1950s, as Roper discusses. > > > C. Leroy Ellenberger > > St. Louis, Missouri > > As I have just asked in another forum: "Who in their right mind would > *start off* with a message "SO TEST HIM: I VOW HE IS E DE VERE The message does NOT "*start off*" with the indicated text; but as Roper explains on p. 7: "[9] A second layer of proof confirming Shakespeare's identity with the Earl of Oxford does exist within the cipher text." It involves the text "With Whome Qvick Natvre Dide". This leads to the Latin SUM DE VE RE NATU which in English may be read as "I AM DE VERE BY BIRTH" which reasonably and sensibly precedes "SO TEST HIM: I VOW HE IS E DE VERE AS HE SHAKSPEARE; ME, B.I." > AS HE SHAKSPEARE; ME, B.I.", and *still* fail to encrypt it without > cheating? > > Peter F. > <pete...@rey.prestel.co.uk> > <http://www2.prestel.co.uk/rey/index.htm> The reader is encouraged to avail him- or herself of Roper's full explanation of the decipherment of Ben Jonson's cipher on the Stratford Monument. C. Leroy Ellenberger St. Louis, Missouri <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._Leroy_Ellenberger>
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