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Article #5096Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: c.leroy
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:44
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:44
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Peter Farey and Paul Crowley might be forgiven their mocking replies for it is conceivable they did not read David Roper's explanation of Ben Jonson's encrypted message in the Stratford Monument due to a defective URL ending with htm instead of pdf, which has been corrected below: On Mar 24, 8:14 pm, c.le...@rocketmail.com wrote: > > Taking the subject heading for this thread at face value, be > advised that David Roper, author of Proving Shakespeare: In > Ben Jonson's Own Words (2008), presents several proofs > that Edward de Vere wrote the sonnets and plays attributed > to WilliamShakespeare. Two of these proofs from the book > are available in revised form on the WWW: > > 1. Henry Peacham's Chronogram: The Dating of Shakespeare's > Titus Andronicus: > <http://www.dlroper.shakespearians.com/henry_peacham.htm> > wherein it is shown that the play was first written in 1574, the > year before de Vere went to Italy, when the Stratford fellow was > only eleven years old or so. > > 2. Ben Jonson's inscription on the Stratford Monument contains > a cryptogram in the form of a Cardano Grille revealing de Vere > as the author of the works ascribed to William Shakespeare. > <http://www.dlroper.shakespearians.com/Cryptology%2021.10.pdf> > This solution shown by Roper is unique and meets the requirements > of a valid Shakespearean cipher set forth by the Friedmans in the > 1950s, as Roper discusses. > > These two proofs are scientific, whose discipline tends to be > alien to so many Stratfordians who defend the Stratford fellow > in terms of scholasticism. They should be reminded, however, > that "Galileo established forever the principles of exact science > against the Aristotleians, when he wrote that one necessary > reason, once found, destroys utterly a thousand merely probable > reasons..." (from Santillana, Georgio De. "On Forgotten Sources > in the History of Science", in Crombie, A.C. (ed.), Scienfitic > Change: Historical studies in the intellectual, social and technical > conditions for scientific discovery and technical invention, from > antiquity to the present. New York 1963. p. 823.) > > Another essay that might interest readers is to be found on the > University of Kansas Scholar Works webpage: > Albert W. Burgstahler, "Encrypted Testimony of Ben Jonson and > His Contemporaries for Who 'William Shakespeare' Really Was" > <http://kuscholarworks.ku.edu/dspace/bitstream/1808/5891/3/ > BurgstahlerCentennial%20ENCRYPTED%20TESTIMONY.pdf> > This paper, summarizing Roper's work and extending it, has been > presented at many conferences in recent years. > > C. Leroy Ellenberger > St. Louis, Missouri It should be apparent that the Cardano Grille format is NOT conducive to elegiac syntax; but, regardless, Jonson's message is encrypted in a valid Cardano Grille despite the inherent clumsiness, whose solution is unique and whose complexity, nevertheless, is distinct from the mere appearance of a simple encrypted name. C. Leroy Ellenberger St. Louis, Missouri
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