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Article #5095Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: Paul Crowley
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:23
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:23
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Peter Farey wrote: > > <c.leroy@rocketmail.com> wrote: >> >> 2. Ben Jonson's inscription on the Stratford Monument contains >> a cryptogram in the form of a Cardano Grille revealing de Vere >> as the author of the works ascribed to William Shakespeare. >> <http://www.dlroper.shakespearians.com/Cryptology%2021.10.htm> >> This solution shown by Roper is unique and meets the requirements >> of a valid Shakespearean cipher set forth by the Friedmans in the >> 1950s, as Roper discusses. >> >> C. Leroy Ellenberger >> St. Louis, Missouri > > As I have just asked in another forum: "Who in their right > mind would *start off* with a message "SO TEST HIM: I > VOW HE IS E DE VERE AS HE SHAKSPEARE; ME, > B.I.", and *still* fail to encrypt it without cheating? You're right, of course. You might have come across the website of a near-identical fool http://www2.prestel.co.uk/rey/epitaph.htm who maintains that you can "find" -- with odds against of 20 million to one -- the name of Christopher Marlowe in the inscription of the Shakespeare monument. My sentiments about it are exactly as you express. No one who was going to encrypt a secret message (especially one of this significance) would contrive so crude, so inelegant and so obscure "a result". "Stay, traveller, why go by so fast? Work out, if you can, whom envious Death has placed with, in this monument, Shakespeare - with whom living capacity died. 'Christofer Marley'. He is returned, nevertheless. That he did the writing leaves Art alive, without a 'page' to dish up his wit." Paul.
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