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Article #5116Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: Peter T. Daniels
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:27
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 2010 16:27
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On Mar 9, 10:07 am, "Peter Farey" <pete...@rey.prestel.co.uk> wrote: > "Peter Farey" wrote: > > > <benli...@ihug.co.nz> wrote: > > >> elizabeth wrote: > > >> > O was bawdy Elizabethan for orgasm. > > >> You have some evidence of this? It seems unlikely, given > >> that OED does not record "orgasm" at all in English until > >> some decades after Shakespeare's death, and then only in > >> the sense of a violent spasm. > > > You must understand that, being English, we refrained from > > any such practice until someone like Bob Grumman invented > > a word for it. Had we nevertheless shame-facedly contrived > > to produce any such condition we would naturally have > > referred to it onomatopoeically. > > Or, a tad more seriously, from the OED: > > O n3. > 1. The figure or symbol zero, 0; nought; > > nought a. > 1.c Morally wrong, immoral; (with reference to sexual behaviour) > promiscuous. Obs. > > nought n. > 3.b b. Wickedness, evil, moral wrong; (also) promiscuity, indecency. > > From Richard III (not in OED) > > GLOUCESTER > We say that Shore's wife hath a pretty foot, > A cherry lip, > A bonny eye, a passing pleasing tongue, > And that the Queen's kin are made gentlefolks. > How say you, sir? Can you deny all this? > BRACKENBURY > With this, my lord, myself have naught to do. > GLOUCESTER > Naught to do with Mrs Shore? I tell thee, fellow: > He that doth naught with her - excepting one - > Were best to do it secretly alone. > BRACKENBURY > What one, my lord? > GLOUCESTER > Her husband, knave. Wouldst thou betray me? > > I think this may be what Elizabeth had in mind. I.e., O = 0 = naught = naughty. No orgasms involved (linguistically speaking).
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