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On Mar 8, 3:26 pm, Peter Groves <metrical...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 9, 6:12 am, Mike <lackpur...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Mar 5, 4:57 pm, Peter Groves <metrical...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 5, 8:37 pm, Franz Gnaedinger <f...@bluemail.ch> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 5, 9:54 am,PeterGroves <metrical...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > This is imbecilic. You are confusing letters and sounds in a manner
> > > > > that would disgrace a schoolboy.
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> > > > > That is, you are not merely ignorantly opinionated, but ineducable to
> > > > > boot.  Makes sense you'd be an Oxfordian.
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> > > > 'Letter' also meant phoneme until the end of the 19th
> > > > century. The Roman letters were conceived as phonemes.
> > > > And as for the connection between 'valiant' and 'William'
> > > > I quote from the reply I just wrote forPeter:
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> > > > * Valiant / William is as good a rhyme as the examples
> > > > * given above, and the alliteration is even of a genetic sort,
> > > > * for William German Wilhelm is composed of will and helmet,
> > > > * will akin to German wollen and Latin velle 'wish', volo 'I wish',
> > > > * in a further meaning 'I decide, order', and valiant coming
> > > > * from valere 'to be strong', in a further meaning 'to have
> > > > * influence, power, importance'
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> > > > *  volo 'I wish', also 'I decide, order'
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> > > > *  valeo 'I am strong', also 'I have influence, power, importance'
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> > > > Your reply is typical for a strutting Strat : reproaches and
> > > > ad hominems instead of answers to questions.
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> > > Do try to understand that when I call your assertions ignorant and
> > > imbecilic I am not attempting to make any kind of argument against
> > > them, "ad hominem" or otherwise, since they do not deserve serious
> > > attention: they are beneath what has beeen called the dignity of
> > > refutation.  I am merely stating facts that are evident to anyone with
> > > normal reasoning powers and even the meanest understanding of your
> > > subject matter (Shakespeare, poetics, linguistics).
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> > > In the academic world we have a thing called peer review; which is a
> > > way of filtering out errors and excesses of various kinds in published
> > > articles and books.  You, of course, could never aspire to
> > > publication, but you are getting in this group what might be termed
> > > review by your intellectual superiors, for which you ought to grateful
> > > (rather than petulant and sulky).  The most useful thing you could do
> > > is to pay attention to what is being explained to you by others (I
> > > don't have the patience for it).
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> > > PeterG.
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> > We need to learn from superiors, that's for sure.  The most superior
> > are the mystics.  Have you learned from them, Peter G.?  Shakespeare
> > was one.
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> > Michael Martin
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> > > You can't
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> > > > make all those obscure remarks unveil their meaning,
> > > > you worship a demi-god veiled in fog and cloaked in clouds,
> > > > preferring him to an actual and apparently loveworthy human
> > > > being of great merit, as the real William Shakespeare
> > > > emerging from the play Romeo and Juliet in my reading
> > > > that is now one week old, since I found the telling pun
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> > > >   O, where is Romeo?        O, Vere is Romeo!
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> > > > last Friday, followed yesterday by
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> > > >   What, Juliet!      Watch, Juliet!
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> > > > and the alliteration
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> > > >   valiant Paris     valiant William
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> > > > Romeo -- Edward de Vere, playwright
> > > > Juliet -- audience personified, Muse
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> Well, I've learned from you that 40 years of meditation can really
> screw up your brain.
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> Peter G.

Shakespeare, Marlowe, & Co. were "darlings of the muses."  They were
not so interested in meters or grammatical precision.  Peer review or
no peer review.  LOL

Michael Martin