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Article #5128Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
From: Franz Gnaedinger
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:04
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:04
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On Mar 6, 3:23 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Oh, so it's back to the same old vocabulary problem. You just don't > know what "alliteration" means. 'Stabreim' in German, a rhyme at the begin, in this case vael- and wil- that are even genetically related, as shown earlier, v- and w- physiologically close, as the sounds are produced by the air breathed out through a slit, in the case of the v formed by the lower lip and the upper front teeth, in the case of the w by both lips - physiology can tell, phonemes are at a loss, as often, phonemes being a poor notation of the rich play starring the Lip, the Upper Lip, the Tongue, the Throat, and others. Edward de Vere helped his uncle - the same who invented the English sonnet of the rhyming scheme a b a b c d c d e f e f g g - translate Ovid's Metamorphoses from Latin to English, so he would have considered words and close variants such as valere and valiant, and velle and German wollen and English will that is present in German Wilhelm and English William, and judging from A Midsummer Night's Dream, where Oberon is chided for having been to India I can even infer that he somehow got in contact with Sanskrit and so may have anticipated the concept of Indo-European - only that the concept of metamorphoses lacked time depth in order to go over into evolutionary theory. Will have to explain this at more length, but you can be sure that William Jones's address didn't come out of the blue, also the grounds for the concept of IE was prepared by someone who came earlier, as is very often the case. But now I am buzzy with another question: why was de Vere silenced? I have an idea and will try to formulate it over the weekend.
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