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Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford

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From: Franz Gnaedinger
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:16
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On Mar 6, 4:00 pm, "ranjit_math...@yahoo.com"
<ranjit_math...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> If you were dealing with an earl of Cambridge, would you consult a
> Cambridge dictionary? Suppose he was, instead, a commoner villein
> Shakespeare who attempted to rise from villeinage by becoming a spear
> bearing mercenary ...http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Shakespeare
> ... but who subsequently found he could wield a pen more mightily than
> a spear. Then, which dictionary would you consult?:->

My other dictionary at home is the Webster's
Unabridged, giving

  valiant   val'yant

  William   wil'yam

  stress on val- and wil-,
  a in -yant and -yam unaccented

which, I assume, are the American pronounciations,
but I consider the ones provided by the Oxford
dictionary that would also do for Cambrdge.
The main difference is British vael- American val-.
I find British vael- closer to wil-

  vael jant
  wil jam

  val yant
  wil yam

So I quoted from the Oxford dictionary only.
Until you came around and made me quote
from the Webster. Have only a small Cambridge
dictionary at home, no pronounciations. And
Peter Groove, who must have one, is way tooo
groooving good to give some information,
being the typical arro from academe.
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Subject: Re: Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
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