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On Mar 1, 2:22 am, Panu <craoibhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 1, 6:13 am, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
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> > On Feb 28, 6:48 pm, Panu <craoibhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Feb 28, 11:12 pm, Ignoto <""ignoto \"@ blahblahblah.org"> wrote:
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> > > > Panu wrote:
> > > > > On Feb 28, 5:00 pm, "Peter T. Daniels" <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote:
> > > > >> On Feb 28, 9:55 am, Panu <craoibhi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > >>> On Feb 28, 3:47 pm, "Peter Farey" <pete...@rey.prestel.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > >>>> "Panu" wrote:
> > > > >>>>> Franz Gnaedinger wrote:
> > > > >>>>>> Proof that 'Shakespeare' was Edward de Vere, Earl of Oxford
> > > > >>>>> Who the hell is interested in Shakespeare anyway?
> > > > >>>> Rather more than those who are interested in Na'vi or Dnghe I suspect?
> > > > >>> I'm not talking about quantity, but quality. Besides, Shakespeare
> > > > >>> would not interest anyone if he wasn't so heavily subsidized.
> > > > >> What _are_ you talking about? (Both points.)
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> > > > > You know perfectly well that Shakespeare is just a minor, obscure
> > > > > dramatist
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> > > > Ok, well, perhaps you would like to tell us the name(s) of the major
> > > > english dramatist(s) of (1) the renaissance and (2) all time.
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> > > I couldn't care less about English dramatists - I didn't major in
> > > English studies. The fact that English is a world language is not
> > > exactly due to English literature or drama being particularly
> > > interesting. And the fact that they haven't been able to produce one
> > > single memorable dramatist after that not-particularly-memorable
> > > scribbler, actually says it all.-
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> > I guess over in Finland you haven't heard of Oscar Wilde, or Bernard
> > Shaw, or Eugene O'Neill, or Tennessee Williams, or Arthur Miller, or
> > Tom Stoppard, or August Wilson? (No, I won't mention Neil Simon,
> > perhaps the unfortunately most prolific of them all.)
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> > Note, Shakespeare-wallahs, that Panu is a Finn and the best he can
> > come up with for "good literature" is in irish.
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> Of course we have heard of Oscar Wilde (an Irishman), George Bernard
> Shaw (another Irishman),

Can you point to the works they wrote in Irish? Can you enumerate the
days they spent in Ireland or the Gaeltacht after they became old
enough to leave?

(Ditto, BTW, Yeats [who stayed] and Beckett. Harlan named a few other
famous Irish writers who didn't use the language, but chose to write
in English.)

> Eugene O'Neill (an American), Tennessee
> Williams (another American), and Arthur Miller (another American).
> August Wilson is unknown to me, but Tom Stoppard sounds vaguely
> familiar.
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> It is obvious that Americans excel in drama, because their culture has
> been cross-pollinated by so many non-English cultures. American
> theatrical tradition and film were obviously vitalized by immigrants
> escaping from Nazi Germany and its dominions.
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> As regards good literature, there is obviously a lot of it in
> civilized languages, such as German and Polish, to mention just two of
> them.-

But not, you apparently concede, Finnish.