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Tron wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> "Newberry" <newberryxy@gmail.com> skrev i melding 
> news:026f9bc3-c984-42e0-b4d0-8a109f4a36b4@k10g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
>> We will utilize the following three definitions.
>>
>> Definition 1: A sentence is meaningful if and only if it is a picture
>> of a possible state of affairs.
> 
> This is a rather naive theory of meaning. From another thread here:
> On the proposition that ...
> 
>> " /..../  we know what a proposition "means" when we know the necessary
>> and sufficient conditions for it to be true...."
> 
> ...the answer was:
> 
> "No (and this is a mild and charitable term). You understand vacuous,
> erroneous, contrafactual, paradoxiccal utterances in your language, although
> they couldn't possibly be true; you even, to take an easy one, understand
> questions, where the issue of truth conditions simply doesn't arise.
> 
> From the same thread (wrt. Austin and speech act theory):
> 
> "Austin opens one of his articles by criticizing (sp?) traditional language
> philosophy for only being interested in propositions that are true or false,
> while we use language for a multitude of other things than asserting.
> This parallells Frege's dictum that logic is like a microscope: useful on
> short distances, but for that very reason not very useful for any other task
> of language.
> That the tasks of language is more than just to assert, is so obvious that
> sytematic thought on this goes back to at least Aristotle and his
> "Rhetoric", which from a slightly different angle, is all about 
> perlocution."
> 
> 
>> Definition 2: A sentence is true if and only if it corresponds to an
>> actual state of affairs.
> 
> Yes. The problem is that we only have inferential information about any such 
> correspondence, and about the "actual state of affairs".

I think you meant 'and *not* about the "actual state of affairs"'. Right?

> 
> Wrt. meaning:
> 
> "Truth conditions might be related to understanding one meaning of the
> concept "true" (Tarski in a nutshell), but hardly even to the meaning of
> sentences which are true."
> 
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