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Article #1103Re: Black "Holes"?
From: sdrodrian
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:00
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:00
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In article <948412578.954343@marvin>, "$toffel" <stoffel@kotnet.org> wrote: > You seem to know something about black holes, Actually very few people know (even less) about black holes. Try a fellow named S. Hawking (s = superman). Or, if you're something of a beginner, you could go to: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/htmltest/rjn_bht.html They have some marvelous material & graphics there on it. > could you help me with > the > following problem? > > To make it short: how can you explain that the entropy increases in > the > forming of a black hole? All matter is squeesed into one point so > there > can't be that much disorder I guess. Take this into consideration: Since we know so little about what goes on inside black holes, it may well be that the particles of matter we are familiar with out here... are torn up and chewed up inside a black hole; and that another set of laws of physics are in effect in there--In which case it's not really possible to speak with any degree of certainty about exactly what is going on inside a black hole (most especially of all one which has swallowed a goodly portion of a galaxy). Although a black hole is, in a sense, a collapse star... it's really gone beyond this and into another kind of object altogether. > Supposed that the big-bang was an exploding black hole, how can in > this > process entropy increase (since it also increased in the forming of > the > black hole wich is the opposit) ? Don't suppose that: The Big Bang never happened, nor will it ever happen. The present day universe of galaxies will in future become one probably without galaxies (and perhaps maybe even a universe where only black holes exist). When a star forms it forms out of present day particles. These particles can engage in nuclear fission/fusion; but this does not mean that the particles which preceded modern-day particles could also engage in this same sort of nuclear fission/fusion. The point being that one just cannot predict what sort of "object" such prehistoric particles may be able or not able to form... including even the infamous pre-Big Bang singularity. > I may have been a bit inaccurate the way I asked these questions > because I > really don't know to much about these things but I hope you know what > I > mean. > > Christophe Working at explaining what one means, Christophe, is always only half the job--The job is always completed when somebody else completes his/her work of understanding it. S D Rodrian sdr@t-three.com http://members.aol.com/prebigbang Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f797c,1a79712bcc911992 X-Google-Attributes: gidf797c,public X-Google-Thread: f871d,23433fe27c63ee94 X-Google-Attributes: gidf871d,public X-Google-Thread: f74ae,9b58bc18f307040a X-Google-Attributes: gidf74ae,public X-Google-Thread: 10cc56,2027c65019feb4bc X-Google-Attributes: gid10cc56,public From: sdrodrian@aol.com Subject: Re: Black "Holes"? Date: 2000/01/22 Message-ID: <86d1a0$9fl$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Deja-AN: 576221113 References: <84ujho$ipe$1@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> <38735556.4204E03C@lucent.com> <864uvv$g4c$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <388731AB.3F75BCA8@spamcop.net> <867pre$ji2$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <948412578.954343@marvin> X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x38.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 38.26.139.248 Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Jan 22 19:44:04 2000 GMT X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDsdrodrian Newsgroups: sci.logic,sci.astro,alt.cynicism,gac.physics.astronomy X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.7 [en] (Win98; U)