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Re: How can space be bent?

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From: sdrodrian
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2000 00:00
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In article <388855d7.13703414@news.prosurfr.com>,
  jsavard@domain.ctry (John Savard) wrote:
> sdrodrian@aol.com wrote, in part:
>
> >However, mine remains a far humbler proposition:
> >That those things a person clearly understands, he/she
> >will be able to explain/express clearly.
>
> Ah, but that does have controversial content, in the way you are using
> it.
>
> You appear to assume that this humble claim implies that, because some
> parts of physics really do require a considerable amount of
> complicated mathematics to fully explain, that these parts of physics
> are phony,

If that is what you thought I implied, your thoughts were
mistaken: Read your quote of what I said (above) again.
If, in order to clearly explain a mathematical matter, the use of
mathematics is required... why in the world would I find doing so
objectionable? I assure you I do not. My objection is to those
pronouncements in gibberish which the gibberish-chiseler
likes to wave in front of people "with the clear understanding"
that they cannot be further elucidated (as they would eventually
be discovered to be the gibberish they are): Unfortunately, any
nunber of gibberish-chiselers also like to pretend they really do
understand their gibberish! (A feeling which must not be far
removed from that one a person, while on a drug trip, gets...
that he/she has finally achieved contact with The Ultimate Meaning
of Life, or some other nonsense.)

> that the scientists who claim to deal with them don't
> really understand them themselves - because they can't explain them in
> terms you can understand.
>
> I'm sorry, but your brain is not the yardstick by which the laws of
> nature are judged.

If you believe that... then you go against the grain of all
human history: The reason your brain is able to understand
something (anything) is because it uses a language which
evolved to clearly express such understanding--Ours is,
very narrowly... a social brain (you think in your mother's
language). It's unimaginable to me what thoughts must
cross the mind of a human being who has NEVER had any
contact with any other human being... EVER; or even whether
thoughts (as we describe such things) are even possible at all!

Thinking good thoughts,

S D Rodrian
sdr@t-three.com
http://members.aol.com/prebigbang


> John Savard (jsavard<at>ecn<dot>ab<dot>ca)
> http://www.ecn.ab.ca/~jsavard/crypto.htm
>
>


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