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Article #455Re: A set cannot contain itself as a member
From: Marko Amnell
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 08:27
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 08:27
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In article <Oct05.201328.96457@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> sa114984@longs.lance.colostate.edu
(Steven Arnold) writes:
> I am not an expert in set theory or the predicate
>calculus, but I was leafing through a book on the subject and the
>following informal "proof" occured to me. Could any of you experts out
>there tell me if this contains a major flaw -- and if so, what it
>is? Thanks.
>
> The proposition to be proven is: A set can never contain
>itself as a member.
> Suppose X is an arbitrary set which contains itself as a
>member. All other members within the set can be symbolized as
>'g'; therefore,
>
> X = {g,X} (1)
>
>(Of course, g may be the empty set.)
> Eq. 1 can be expanded as follows:
>
> X = {g, X'}
> /\
> {g,X''}
> /\
> {g,X'''}
>
>...and so on forever. (The ' symbol is merely meant to
>distinguish an X of one iteration from that of another.) X'',
>for example, is equivalent to {g,X'''}; X''' is equivalent to
>{g,X''''}, etc etc.
> The number of X's below X'' is infinite; nonetheless, it
>is certainly true that X' contains X'' as well as all the X's
>contained by X''; therefore X' contains one more X than X''! It
>follows that X' != X'', for X' contains an X not contained in X''.
>By the same reasoning, X != X', because X contains one more X
>than does X'. Therefore, for any arbitrary set X, X cannot
>contain itself as a member.
>
>Steve
What you have just described is, I believe, what is called the
`unfolding' of the set x={x}. It is a typical non-well-founded set.
A _non-well-founded set_ is a set that need not have an epsilon-minimal
element. There will exist an infinite "descending" chain of the
epsilon-relation. This is why it is called a non-well-founded set. It
is not built out of pre-existing elements. The set x={x} can also be
represented by an infinite tree with a set assigned to each node.
It would look like this, with an arrow indicating membership.
x-->x-->x-->x-->...
The existence of non-well-founded sets can be made into an axiom, the
Anti Foundation Axiom (AFA). The resulting theory is very interesting
mathematically and has practical and theoretical applications. See
Peter Aczel, _Non-Well-Founded Sets_. CSLI Lecture Notes 14, (1988).
--
Marko Amnell
amnell@klaava.helsinki.fi
Graduate Student in Philosophy
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