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In article <1992Nov11.173613.12104@waikato.ac.nz>, maj@waikato.ac.nz writes:
|> Gary Merrill in sci.classics :
|> 
|> 
|> Brian, you're being really dense here.  The point is not what kinds
|> of insight one acquires by being a woman, a slave, or a serf, but
|> rather what *position* one may gain by being a "feminist philosopher",
|> a "slave philospher",  or a "serf philosopher".
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> Gary Merrill in sci.logic  :
|> 
|> 
|> Ah yes.  The ultimate academic bugaboo:  funding.  Everything (even your
|> taxonomy of cognitive disciplines) must be a slave to funding.
|> 
|> 
|> -- 
|> Murray A. Jorgensen [ maj@waikato.ac.nz ]    University of Waikato
|> Department of Mathematics and Statistics     Hamilton, New Zealand      
|> __________________________________________________________________
|> 'Tis the song of the Jubjub! the proof is complete,
|> if only I've stated it thrice.'

No, not exactly.  While these remarks *might* be attacked as being
certain types of fallacies of relevance, the fallacy in question
are *not* ad hominem.  I refer you to Carney & Scheer, _Logic and
Argument_ for the details (or any decent book on rhetoric).

Moreover, since these were *not* offered as *arguments*, it is
somewhat inaccurate to characterize them thus.  Think of them as
armchair (though based on some experience with these matters)
sociological observations concerning *why* certain things are of
intense interest to academics at certain times.  I not, at least,
that you do not impugn the *truth* of these remarks.

-- 
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SAS Institute Inc. / SAS Campus Dr. / Cary, NC  27513 / (919) 677-8000
sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com ... !mcnc!sas!sasghm

In article <BxK0uw.7tC@unx.sas.com>, sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Nov11.173613.12104@waikato.ac.nz>, maj@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> |> Gary Merrill in sci.classics :
> |> 
> |> 
> |> Brian, you're being really dense here.  The point is not what kinds
> |> of insight one acquires by being a woman, a slave, or a serf, but
> |> rather what *position* one may gain by being a "feminist philosopher",
> |> a "slave philospher",  or a "serf philosopher".
> |> 
> |> 
> |> 
> |> Gary Merrill in sci.logic  :
> |> 
> |> 
> |> Ah yes.  The ultimate academic bugaboo:  funding.  Everything (even your
> |> taxonomy of cognitive disciplines) must be a slave to funding.
> 
> No, not exactly.  While these remarks *might* be attacked as being
> certain types of fallacies of relevance, the fallacy in question
> are *not* ad hominem.  I refer you to Carney & Scheer, _Logic and
> Argument_ for the details (or any decent book on rhetoric).

Sorry. I know that there was no ad hominem in a technical sense.
And I was refering to *my* argumentation in maliciously quoting
you, rather that the structure of your *your* argument.

> 
> Moreover, since these were *not* offered as *arguments*, it is
> somewhat inaccurate to characterize them thus.  Think of them as
> armchair (though based on some experience with these matters)
> sociological observations concerning *why* certain things are of
> intense interest to academics at certain times.  I not, at least,
> that you do not impugn the *truth* of these remarks.
> 
Only indirectly, in that they appear to contradict each other, at
least if the 'must' in the second quote is intended to be ironic.

> -- 
> Gary H. Merrill  [Principal Systems Developer, C Compiler Development]
> SAS Institute Inc. / SAS Campus Dr. / Cary, NC  27513 / (919) 677-8000
> sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com ... !mcnc!sas!sasghm
-- 
Murray A. Jorgensen [ maj@waikato.ac.nz ]    University of Waikato
Department of Mathematics and Statistics     Hamilton, New Zealand      
__________________________________________________________________
'Tis the song of the Jubjub! the proof is complete,
if only I've stated it thrice.'