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Article #463Re: Gibbs sampling and annealing (was: Help! Book recommendations?)
From: frederic montoya
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 11:50
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 11:50
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In article <1992Oct4.192217.27919@news2.cis.umn.edu>, charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Charles Geyer) writes: > In article <1992Oct3.210337.21498@news2.cis.umn.edu> I wrote: > > It makes no sense to compare Gibbs sampling versus simulated annealing, > for example. > > In article <92Oct4.130952edt.243@neuron.ai.toronto.edu> radford@cs.toronto.edu > (Radford Neal) replies: > > > Correct, but not for the reasons you perhaps mean. Simulated annealing > > is a technique that can be used in conjunction with Gibbs sampling > > (or other Markov chain methods, such as the Metropolis algorithm) > > in order to reach the final equilibrium distribution more quickly. > > Depends on how you think about Markov chain Monte Carlo. The > Metropolis-Hastings algorithm produces a Markov chain with a known > stationary distribution. This "annealing trick" doesn't. So far > from mixing MCMC and simulated annealing, it is not MCMC at all. > > Are there any practically useful convergence results for such schemes > once Markov chain theory is thrown out the window? > This especially true whenever you want to sample thermodynamic quantities. Averages must then be well controlled in order to get significant results. ----- Frederic Montoya LSG2M - Ecole des Mines fmontoya@circe.fr
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!corton!frors65!frors65.circe.fr!fmontoya From: fmontoya@frors65.circe.fr (frederic montoya) Newsgroups: sci.math.stat,sci.math.num-analysis Subject: Re: Gibbs sampling and annealing (was: Help! Book recommendations?) Message-ID: <1992Oct09.115016.187288@circe.fr> Date: 9 Oct 92 11:50:16 GMT References: <1992Oct4.192217.27919@news2.cis.umn.edu> <1992Oct2.095522.9172@vax.oxford.ac.uk> <1992Oct3.210337.21498@news2.cis.umn.edu> <92Oct4.130952edt.243@neuron.ai.toronto.edu> Sender: news@circe.fr (login news) Reply-To: fmontoya@frors65.circe.fr (frederic montoya) Organization: circe Lines: 33