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Re: Would the burn be white if its proteins did not didn't coagulate?

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From: Radium
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 00:48
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> > >First the transparent proteins denaturate/coagulate and turn white.
> >
> > So what makes the burn look white, the denaturation or the coagulation?
> > If the denatured proteins in the burn were not allowed to coagulate [as
> > would be the case under my 'rules'], would the burn still look white?
> >
> > >Then keep frying and its glyco/sugar type components caramelize
> > >and turn brown, and upon further frying they "char" into black stuff,
> >
> > Proteins have glyco/sugar components? Never knew proteins contain
> > carbohydrates.
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> Maybe not "carbohydrate" exactly [Cn(H2O)n] , but nitrogen, carbon,
> hydrogen, oxygen, close enough.
>
> http://web.mit.edu/esgbio/www/lm/proteins/aa/aminoacids.html
>
> Proteins have a repeating N-C-C backbone, as is explained in any
> college-level biology and chemistry text...

Okay

> Just to throw a wrench into the works, would white blood cells also
> contribute to the white color?

I am not sure about this. The epidermis doesn't have any blood supply.
Thus it is unlikely that a 1st-degree burn [which only injures the
epidermis] would result in white blood cells being in the epidermis of
the burn region. I doubt that there would be any more white blood cells
in the epidermis of the burn region than there would be in epidermis of
non-burned regions [i.e. ZERO].

> Take some chicken breast and throw it in the microwave for a couple of
> minutes, notice the color... what do you see?  (Make sure it's
> thoroughly cooked before eating!)

Chicken turns from pink to white when heated. Beef turns from red to
brown when heated. This is probably due to thermal-denaturation of the
myoglobins present in the meat.

However, this is very different from what happens in the
1st-degree-burned epidermis. The epidermis does not contain any
hemoglobins or myoglobins.

I ^think^ -- but DON'T *know* that -- the 'whiteness' in a 1st-degree
burn is due to thermal-denaturation of the proteins that make up the
epidermis. If these denatured proteins were NOT allowed to coagulate
[as is the case under my 'rules'] would the burn still appear white?
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