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From: mitchell@oac3.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Philip Mitchell)
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Subject: Re: Impure Mathematics
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Date: 27 Aug 1992 14:11:30 GMT
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In article <1992Aug26.214334.5602@news.acns.nwu.edu> fred@iapetus.earth.nwu.edu
(Fred Marton) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.185715.5040@noao.edu> muller@noao.edu (Beatrice Muller)
writes:
>>
>>I totally agree Suzanne! I wonder if they found it funny if the two
>>genders would have been reversed!
>>
>>Beatrice
>
>sure, why not?  it's known as having a sense of humor.
>
>fred

Without belaboring the point...

     Oh look!  What a collection of mathematical puns, and put together in
     a story.  How amusing!

     Oh, but the story portrays the assault and rape of a woman.  That's a
     real problem, in which real people are physically and mentally scarred,
     and from which recovery is difficult.  It has been compounded in the
     past by an attitude that projects the 'blame' onto the victim or that
     refuses to recognize this violence as a crime at all, because 'boys
     will be boys.'  And it is a crime that is only recently being recognized
     as a crime of violence against the individual.  Since this recognition
     is so late in coming, there are probably a lot of people who are
     sensitive to the issue, and will be mad as hell if someone suggests,
     in whatever way, that rape should be considered in any other way.

Reversing the genders does not really convey the same emotion since most
men never have to worry about it (note the 'most'...there are exceptions to
everything).  Maybe a 'funny' story full of puns about war atrocities, read
to the victims, would produce more comparable results.

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>> Firstly - yes it is clever for someone to use lots of mathematical
>> terminologies.
>> Secondly - The subject is STILL  R A P E
>> This problem IS SERIOUS and must never be BELITTLED!!
>> Thirdly - what do you mean by 'most men never have to worry'
>> What planet are you on?? EVERYBODY is potentially at risk!
>> Also, be careful what you say about men being raped/attacked.....
>> I have friends who have suffered the trauma & humiliation of this,
>> and I am sure that most other people find YOURS (AND FREDS) attitude
>> rather sad.
>> In case you think I am getting on 'my soap box', you're wrong its
>> just that some of us are more HUMAN than you.
>> Lastly - with regards to writing about 'War atrocities' to get more
>> comparable results -  GROW UP!!

>> Eddie