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Re: Whale killing for "science" -- so for what?

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From: Hartmut Frommert
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:26
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ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:

(Thanx for clearing some things, Edward)

>In <heine.711372713@barsoom> heine@barsoom.nhh.no (Heine Rasmussen) writes:

>>The alleged vast intelligence of whales is a myth, partially created
>>by the popular science magazines.  

>And partially created by marine mammal experts at places like 
>Cornell University.

>>All marine biologists I have
>>discussed the subject with, estimate whales to be at the level of a
>>horse, or a cow.  The brain mass/body mass ratio also suggests this is
>>correct. 

Read the prev posting to get correct. Esp. this ratio suggests that some
whales (orcas, dolphins) compare even to humans.

>Could you please identify the "marine biologists [you] have discussed
>the subject with" and cite the research they have done to support this 
>claim.  How many of those biologists specialize in whales as opposed to
>algae or plankton or sea anemones?  How many are employed by the Norwegan
>whaling industry?

The most important thing is that as far as I see the Norwegian officials 
(at least those who decided to restart whaling) do *NOT CARE* anyway if 
whales are intelligent or not. Even if you could teach whales speaking, 
calculating, doing arts and science, these officials would state that these 
fact are not implying intelligence. And even if they admitted, this would 
not prevent them from whale murdering. These people would anyway look on how 
to make most profit.

Moreover, according to a recent message, also Iceland prepares for mass 
murder of whales. They seem to be at least more honest: they do not mention
"scientific reasons". One reason besides eating them is claimed to be their
fish consuming. But shrinking fish population is of course not due to the 
whales, but to the Icelanders, and other people, who made their fishing 
industries. Maybe other countries join. So Norway was the one who re-started
this "war" against whales after the moratorium.

--
 Hartmut Frommert, LS Dehnen, Physics, | E-Mail: <phfrom@dknkurz1.bitnet>
 Univ of Constance, P.O.Box 55 60,     |     or  <phfrom@nyx.uni-konstanz.de>
 D-W-7750 Constance, Germany  | + SAVE THE WHALES ! BOYCOTT NORWAY !        +
 Phone: +49-(0)7531-88-3747   | + Whales R intelligent. Whale killers not.  +
+ Whale killing is murder. Eating whales is cannibalism. Eat whale killers. +
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From: phfrom@nyx.uni-konstanz.de (Hartmut Frommert)
Subject: Re: Whale killing for "science" -- so for what?
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Keywords: Whales, whale killing
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