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DEBATE? Any Time, Any Place -- IF the Playing Field is Level
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Author: Ed Conrad
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 23:43
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>   POSTED TO TALK.ORIGINS & SCI.ANTHROPOLGY)
>          (Home, Sweet Home of the Pseudoscientists)

Let me make one thing perfectly clear: I do NOT fear debate.

Frankly, I would relish it -- if the debating conditions were
equal. But obviously they're not!

Emphatic proof is the relentless character assassination of an
honest investigator -- me -- in these news groups. I've been called
everything in the book, and worse.

Granted, I can understand your childish behavior because you 
people don't like the unpleasant things I've been saying about
you -- all true.

But you must understand it has been the scientific community's total
disregard for truth that had set this thing in motion, followed by
your incredible arrogance attempting -- unsuccessfully -- to defend
it.

The hard cold fact is that YOU -- same as Pseudoscience Inc. --
don't want facts and physical evidence.You prefer to side
with deceit, deception, collusion and conspiracy.

You have been handed a phenomenal scientific breakthrough
on a silver platter. The least you can do is discuss these
discoveries, not make snide jokes about the person who found
them.

The photos posted here and elsewhere are astounding, to say
the very least: petrified bones, teeth and even soft organs discovered
between anthracite veins.

Science has long claimed there were no large animals, 
certainly not man, on earth back when coal was being formed.
But Science is wrong -- dead wrong -- because all of these
specimens were found between Pennsylvania coal veins:

> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skulla.jpg
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skullb.jpg
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/other1.jpg
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z2.jpg 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z2_2.jpg

> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-005S.JPG 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-006S.JPG 
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-007S.JPG

> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/z6femur.jpg
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z7femur.jpg
> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z8femur.jpg

> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z5gall.htm

> http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z9lung.htm

The Smithsonian Institution, I should note, possesses none of these
Carboniferous-age fossils -- NONE -- unless they've long been buried
in its basement, or had been hauled to a landfill.

See, it cannot accept this astounding amount of physical evidence
because it fully realizes they pose a monumental threat to evolution's
colossal lie.

Meanwhile, It is quite obvious that you -- same as the Smithsonian --
do not want truth. You prefer fiction and fairy tales, which you have
been spoonfed through all of your colleges and universities.

It is nothing more than a conspiracy against truth, this crap called
the Evolution of Man.

You are to be pitied to have allowed the corrupt Scientific
Establishment to warp your mind -- and, much worse, to allow
this despicable fiction to survive for as long as it has.

These discoveries of human remains prove, beyond any reasonable
doubt, that man existed in our almost our present form multi-millions
of years before the conspiratorial evolutionist doctrine places us
here.

I might also emphasize that these specimens were subjeced to an array
of honest scientific testing and all of the results were favorable.

i.e.: Microcopic search for cell structure (Yerkes bone expert Jeremy
Dahl); CAT-scans (more than a dozen); infrared scans (detecting dried
blood on ALL of the human specimens examined); the opinion of world
reknowned human anatomists Wilton Krogram and Raymond Dart, M.D.,
along with Kingsnorth Patterson, anotehr bone expert, then of McGill
University in Montreal;  dental photos, etc., etc.

Meanwhile, it is a fact that some testing was performed by
Establishment scientists but, sadly, the truth was twisted with
fraudulent, deceptive or evasive results.  (Hear that, Smithsonian,
Andrew MacRae and others.)

Fortunately, these poor excuses for scientists were caught with
their pants down. 

Need I remind you that testing by American Medical Laboratories,
for example, determined that dried blood exists on many
of the human specimens. If you question these results, go to the
horse's mouth and challenge American Medical Laboratories' integrity,
but be prepared for a lawsuit.

The bottom line is that I have charged the Smithsonian and others
with a crime against humanity, and my accusation stands.

I have called you -- especially in talk.origins and sci.paleontology
-- squirmin' vermin,. because you are.

Last but not least: you people DO NOT deserve the truth. You deserve
to wallow instead in your total disregard for honesty and integrity,
your acceptance of deceit, deception, collusion and
conspiracy, and may your erroneous theory of evolution continue
to turn the good earth into even more of a circus than it is now.

May God -- IF there is one -- please have mercy on your grandchildren,
and theirs. Mankind, being denied the truth of its origin and
ancestry, cannot possibly get better, only worse.

Ed Conrad
>   http://www.edconrad.com
Re: DEBATE? Any Time, Any Place -- IF the Playing Field is Level
#1244
Author: Lodewijk
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 11:32
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edconrad@shenhgts.net (Ed Conrad) wrote in message news:<3d320c58.7704968@news.shenhgts.net>...
> >   POSTED TO TALK.ORIGINS & SCI.ANTHROPOLGY)
> >          (Home, Sweet Home of the Pseudoscientists)
> 
> Let me make one thing perfectly clear: I do NOT fear debate.
> 
> Frankly, I would relish it -- if the debating conditions were
> equal. But obviously they're not!
> 
> Emphatic proof is the relentless character assassination of an
> honest investigator -- me -- in these news groups. I've been called
> everything in the book, and worse.
> 
> Granted, I can understand your childish behavior because you 
> people don't like the unpleasant things I've been saying about
> you -- all true.
> 
> But you must understand it has been the scientific community's total
> disregard for truth that had set this thing in motion, followed by
> your incredible arrogance attempting -- unsuccessfully -- to defend
> it.
> 
> The hard cold fact is that YOU -- same as Pseudoscience Inc. --
> don't want facts and physical evidence.You prefer to side
> with deceit, deception, collusion and conspiracy.
> 
> You have been handed a phenomenal scientific breakthrough
> on a silver platter. The least you can do is discuss these
> discoveries, not make snide jokes about the person who found
> them.
> 
> The photos posted here and elsewhere are astounding, to say
> the very least: petrified bones, teeth and even soft organs discovered
> between anthracite veins.
> 
> Science has long claimed there were no large animals, 
> certainly not man, on earth back when coal was being formed.
> But Science is wrong -- dead wrong -- because all of these
> specimens were found between Pennsylvania coal veins:
> 
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skulla.jpg
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/skullb.jpg
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/other1.jpg
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z2.jpg 
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z2_2.jpg
>  
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z11calv.jpg 
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-005S.JPG 
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-006S.JPG 
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/MVC-007S.JPG
>  
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith1/z6femur.jpg
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z7femur.jpg
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z8femur.jpg
>  
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z5gall.htm
>  
> > http://www.edconrad.com/ebay/Smith/z9lung.htm
> 
> The Smithsonian Institution, I should note, possesses none of these
> Carboniferous-age fossils -- NONE -- unless they've long been buried
> in its basement, or had been hauled to a landfill.
> 
> See, it cannot accept this astounding amount of physical evidence
> because it fully realizes they pose a monumental threat to evolution's
> colossal lie.
> 
> Meanwhile, It is quite obvious that you -- same as the Smithsonian --
> do not want truth. You prefer fiction and fairy tales, which you have
> been spoonfed through all of your colleges and universities.
> 
> It is nothing more than a conspiracy against truth, this crap called
> the Evolution of Man.
> 
> You are to be pitied to have allowed the corrupt Scientific
> Establishment to warp your mind -- and, much worse, to allow
> this despicable fiction to survive for as long as it has.
> 
> These discoveries of human remains prove, beyond any reasonable
> doubt, that man existed in our almost our present form multi-millions
> of years before the conspiratorial evolutionist doctrine places us
> here.
> 
> I might also emphasize that these specimens were subjeced to an array
> of honest scientific testing and all of the results were favorable.
> 
> i.e.: Microcopic search for cell structure (Yerkes bone expert Jeremy
> Dahl); CAT-scans (more than a dozen); infrared scans (detecting dried
> blood on ALL of the human specimens examined); the opinion of world
> reknowned human anatomists Wilton Krogram and Raymond Dart, M.D.,
> along with Kingsnorth Patterson, anotehr bone expert, then of McGill
> University in Montreal;  dental photos, etc., etc.
> 
> Meanwhile, it is a fact that some testing was performed by
> Establishment scientists but, sadly, the truth was twisted with
> fraudulent, deceptive or evasive results.  (Hear that, Smithsonian,
> Andrew MacRae and others.)
> 
> Fortunately, these poor excuses for scientists were caught with
> their pants down. 
> 
> Need I remind you that testing by American Medical Laboratories,
> for example, determined that dried blood exists on many
> of the human specimens. If you question these results, go to the
> horse's mouth and challenge American Medical Laboratories' integrity,
> but be prepared for a lawsuit.
> 
> The bottom line is that I have charged the Smithsonian and others
> with a crime against humanity, and my accusation stands.
> 
> I have called you -- especially in talk.origins and sci.paleontology
> -- squirmin' vermin,. because you are.
> 
> Last but not least: you people DO NOT deserve the truth. You deserve
> to wallow instead in your total disregard for honesty and integrity,
> your acceptance of deceit, deception, collusion and
> conspiracy, and may your erroneous theory of evolution continue
> to turn the good earth into even more of a circus than it is now.
> 
> May God -- IF there is one -- please have mercy on your grandchildren,
> and theirs. Mankind, being denied the truth of its origin and
> ancestry, cannot possibly get better, only worse.
> 
> Ed Conrad
> >   http://www.edconrad.com

So, recapitulating your tirade it sounds to me you're managing the
miracle of combining Creation and Evolution, or better: in your view
Evolution is a 'submap' of Creation. Am I right?
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