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Is math certain? (Was: Rhetoric and Software Engineering)

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From: J A Biep Durieux
Date: Wed, 31 May 1989 08:54
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In article <May.19.15.36.05.1989.2641@yes.rutgers.edu>,
	emuleomo@yes.rutgers.edu (Emuleomo) writes:
> Wonders will never cease! How can you include COMPUTER SCIENCE in
> humanities when this discipline evolved from the math and EE depts.??

In article <155@marvin.moncam.co.uk> paul@moncam.co.uk (Paul Hudson) writes:
>Over here several places put maths in the "arts" side of the fence.

In article <734@ecrcvax.UUCP> periklis@ecrcvax.UUCP (Periklis Tsahageas) writes:
>I will argue that, actually, there are two fences.

>Mathematics can not be considered an art since arts, by definition, lack the
>most basic foundation of maths : formalism. (...)

You must be a Hilbertian, I guess

>Two historians can argue forever about a theory, while I do not know anything
>that would make two mathematicians disagree. (...)

Ever read about e.g. the debate between Brouwer and Hilbert?

>The fundamental distinction between a mathematician and a scientist is that,
>while the latter's creations (theories) are valid as long as they are not
>disproven, the former's are, in a sense, perfect and eternal.
>This is, for me, the beauty of maths.
-- 
						Biep.  (biep@cs.vu.nl via mcvax)
	Who am I to doubt the existence of God?   I am
	  only a simple man,  I already have trouble
	enough doubting the existence of my neighbour!
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From: biep@cs.vu.nl (J A Biep Durieux)
Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,sci.math,comp.software-eng
Subject: Is math certain? (Was: Rhetoric and Software Engineering)
Keywords: arts, maths, science and engineering
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Date: 31 May 89 08:54:16 GMT
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