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Article #376Re: Dualism
From: Neil Rickert
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:49
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:49
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In article <1992Sep14.011825.25966@galois.mit.edu> tycchow@riesz.mit.edu (Timothy Y. Chow) writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.215142.25567@mp.cs.niu.edu> rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) writes:
>>Some of us have the intuition that the lookup table could not pass the
>>Turing test. What does this do to your argument?
>
>Can you be more explicit about this intuition? Perhaps I should point out
>that my sample of the lookup table was a bit misleading.
>...
>case (1st input)
> "Hi": output("Hi")
> case (2nd input)
> "What's up?": output("Not much.")
> case (3rd input)
> ...
> "How's it going?": ...
> ...
> "Are you conscious?": output("What do you think?")
> ...
>
>The main problem lies with the limitations of the input and output:
No. The main problem lies in the impossibility of constructing a table
sufficiently comprehensive.
To maintain some degree of dialog, the lookup table daemon must respond
within a reasonable time. Let's say a maximum time delay of 1 year, to
be excessively generous. Now start counting how many entries are needed
in the table -- at least 26^n where n is the maximum length (in characters)
of the conversation -- and assume that you would probably need at least
one atom to record the information for each table entry. All these
atoms would have to fit within a diameter of 1 light year to meet the
responsiveness requirement.
The density of atoms will be so high that I believe you will have created
a black hole, from which the response of the lookup table daemon cannot
escape.
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!mp.cs.niu.edu!rickert From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) Subject: Re: Dualism Message-ID: <1992Sep14.144957.28355@mp.cs.niu.edu> Organization: Northern Illinois University References: <1992Sep13.201005.23853@galois.mit.edu> <1992Sep13.215142.25567@mp.cs.niu.edu> <1992Sep14.011825.25966@galois.mit.edu> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:49:57 GMT Lines: 37