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In article <_cwnz1m.kmc@netcom.com> kmc@netcom.com (Kevin McCarty) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.224807.13323@math.ucla.edu> barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) writes:
>>Dualism is simply another form of mysticism. Its the same old
>>premise: we don't understand something, therefore there must 
>>be a paranormal phenomena at work. 
>
>What mysticism? I don't know what you're railing at.  There's
>absolutely nothing paranormal going on at all.  The two
>incontrovertible facts at issue here are as plain and mundane as the
>nose on your face: there are physical phenomena such as objects, and
>there are mental phenomena such as sensations.  And a mystery: how are
>they so different?

How do you know that they are different?  They are spoken of in
totally different ways -- how does one compare them?  I don't see any
obstruction at all to identifying conscious experiences with events in
my brain; the causal behaviour is right.  We are dealing with objects
with incommensurable descriptions here -- we have no reason to believe
that the _objects_ are different, just that the _descriptions_ are
different.


>
>>I take the historical perspective: this argument has failed in 
>>so many contexts, as science one by one develops the understanding, 
>>that we should expect this sort of argument to fail again.
>>
>>The 'soul'  has hopped from organ to organ, as each organs
>>function has been elucidated. It used to reside in the heart, 
>>and at another point, the kidney, and its come to its final resting
>>place in the brain. The brain is harder to unravel than than the heart or 
>>kidney, but folks are making steady progress, and I'm sure we'll 
>>live to see it exorcised from the brain as well.
>
>Who said anything about a soul?  What's that got to do with anything?
>Do you really think that such things as affect, blueness, and the
>sonority of a major triad will be exorcised someday?  Why would anyone
>want to do that?
>
>
>-- 
>Kevin McCarty (kmc@netcom.com)


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