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Article #408FREE WILL 1: Compatibilism sucks!
From: David Spurrett
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 10:46
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 10:46
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FREE WILL 1: Compatibilism sucks.
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[I posted this to talk.Philosophy.misc, and didn't cross post. Sorry, I'm
still getting into this.]
Compatibilism (the thesis that free will and determinism are com-
patible, ie. that both can be simultaneously true) is crud. If we
define determinism as:
`The theory that the state of a system at some time and the rela-
tions governing the time development of the system determine, un-
ambiguously, the state of the system at any later time. (In time
reversal invariant theories, the state of the system at some time
and the relations governing time development give the state of the
system at _any_ time.)'
And further is we define voluntarism (the thesis that we have `free
will') as:
`The theory that a person is free with respect to same act if they
both can perform it and refrain from performing it.'
Then the conflict is manifest. The fact is that determinism holds
that there is _one_ actual future, the properties of which are already
fixed. Voluntarism hold that our ability to choose means that there
are a number of possible futures, only one of which will eventually be
the case. Determinism and Voluntarism are only compatible if 1 = x
where x > 1. [one is equal to a number greater than one.]
At the risk of labouring the point, the issue can be represented
diagrammatically:
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| Determinism: |
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| Past ------------------ Actual Future |
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| |
| Voluntarism: |
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| _________ Possible Future `a' |
| / |
| Past -------< |
| \_________ Possible Future `b' |
| \ |
| \_______ etc... |
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To quote William James:
To [the indeterminist] view, actualities seem to float in a wider
sea of possibilities from out of which they are chosen; and, some-
where, indeterminism says, such possibilities exist and even form
part of truth.
Determinism, on the contrary, says they exist _nowhere_, and that
necessity on the one hand, and impossibility on the other are the
sole categories of the real. Possibilities that fail to get
realised are, for determinism, pure illusions: they were never pos-
sibilities at all.
The question, therefore, is _which_ of the two is true. The prob-
lem, therefore, is to look into the credentials of each doctrine. I
suggest that determinism is rather unattractive, but that voluntarism
is difficult to make intelligible. Any thoughts? [especially a really
_good_ `proof' of compatibilism, or reflections on which of the two is
true.]
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| University of Natal, Durban | it makes no sense.' |
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