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Article #430Re: Dualism
From: Frank Adams
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 18:37
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 18:37
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In article <1992Oct6.165617.26091@oracorp.com> daryl@oracorp.com (Daryl McCullough) writes: >In article <1992Oct02.202707.126376@Cookie.secapl.com>, >frank@Cookie.secapl.com (Frank Adams) writes: >>>I also don't believe that mental states are determined by physical >>>states. I believe that the relationship between a mental state and the >>>corresponding physical state to be something like the relationship >>>between an algorithm and a corresponding implementation, or the >>>relationship between a theory and its models. >> >>Two very different analogies. I *can* in principle determine the algorithm >>from the implementation (although there may be cases where I am not smart >>enough to do so). > >I disagree. In implementing an algorithm as a physical system, there >will be some state variables that will be used as inputs, some that >will be used as outputs, some that will be used as "scratch paper", >some that will be used as memory. Still other state variables will be >completely irrelevant to the algorithm (for example, in most computers >such things as the temperature of the CPU, which is certainly a state >variable of the computer as a physical system, is completely >irrelevant). It is not possible (even in principle) to uniquely >interpret a physical system as an implementation of an algorithm >without knowing more about implementation conventions. From your original post, I did not understand "a corresponding implementation" to mean *physical* implementation, but instead interpreted it as "implementation in a programming language". With my interpretation, this is a mathematical problem, which is not computable as a class, but any individual problem may be solved with sufficient ingenuity. Your problem makes it a scientific problem. Our experience with science so far suggests that such problems are, in fact, solvable.
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!secapl!Cookie!frank From: frank@Cookie.secapl.com (Frank Adams) Subject: Re: Dualism Message-ID: <1992Oct07.183721.130369@Cookie.secapl.com> Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 18:37:21 GMT References: <1992Oct6.165617.26091@oracorp.com> Organization: Security APL, Inc. Lines: 33