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Article #477Re: Dualism
From: Daryl McCullough
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:22
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:22
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>Plausibility arguments are really all that one has to go on in >theorizing about consciousness. Solipsism, to take another >position, is consistent with the evidence, but doesn't seem at all >likely. I'm not sure what you mean by "likely" here. I think that the argument against solipsism is more based on esthetics or practicality than on likelihood (since there is no a priori probability distribution on possible worlds). Either we argue: For the world to be like that seems arbitrary (which is an esthetic judgement, as far as I can tell), or we argue: Assuming I act on the hypothesis that solipsism is right, and it turns out to be wrong, then the consequences are much worse than the other way around (which is a practical argument). I don't see where likelihood comes in. >Here are a few "principles of plausibility" that seem >to be good constraints for a theory of consciousness to satisfy. > >(1) Indistinguishable brains give rise to indistinguishable states >of consciousness. > >(2) Our reports of our conscious states, by and large, accurately >reflect those states. > >(3) Our memories of conscious experiences aren't radically mistaken, >by and large. > >And so on. Without assuming something like (2) and (3), we have nothing to go on in discussions of consciousness. However, I don't see the necessity of assuming (1). Why should it be that physical states "give rise" to unique mental states? An alternative point of view is that, rather than there being a function from mental states to physical states, there is simply a relation: This physical state is compatible with (rather than "gives rise to") that mental state. Compatibility would in general be a many-to-many relation. In Searle's Response to the Systems Reply to the Chinese Room Argument, Searle suggests that you might memorize the rules for producing output based on inputs in Chinese. Regardless of whether this is a practical possibility, it is logically possible (as is the giant lookup table). According to one story, there are no thoughts other than your thoughts as you try to follow a set of mystifying rules that you have memorized. According to another story, your actions give rise to a Chinese mind which thinks thoughts that are expressed in Chinese. I believe that both stories are compatible with the physical facts, and that is the most that can be said. Contrary to how it might seem at first, this doesn't contradict principle of plausibilty (2), that our reports of our conscious states are reliable. Using introspection, you find that there is a definite fact of the matter about what you are thinking about; either you are thinking about your home in Beijing, or you are not. However, you cannot transfer this definiteness of thoughts to the physical object, your body, unless you identify your mind with your body. Given a mind, there may be a fact of the matter about what it is thinking about, but given a physical object, there might not be a (unique) fact of the matter about which mind it possesses. Daryl McCullough ORA Corp. Ithaca, NY
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!pacbell.com!ames!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!think.com!rpi!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!psinntp!psinntp!scylla!daryl From: daryl@oracorp.com (Daryl McCullough) Subject: Re: Dualism Message-ID: <1992Sep29.152225.1174@oracorp.com> Organization: ORA Corporation Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:22:25 GMT Lines: 64