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Article #487Re: Dualism
From: David Chalmers
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:12
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:12
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In article <1992Sep29.130441.29896@sophia.smith.edu> orourke@sophia.smith.edu (Joseph O'Rourke) writes: >Despite your rejection of evolution, I believe it can give a type >of answer to both. We feel because it is evolutionarily advantageous >to experience pain, to have our pulse quicken at sharp sounds, etc. >And perhaps it is neurologically most efficient for these survival >advantages to be implemented via experiential feel, rather than >zombie reactions. The trouble with this is that is simply doesn't touch the main question. Everybody -- i.e. the physicalist and I -- are agreed that evolution selects physical structures, based on their functional roles. i.e., it will select a certain sort of brain organization, with certain patterns of neural connectivity that lead to advantageous consequences, and the like. The question here, however is: why, given that the brain structure and function is like so, do we have qualia (and why are the qualia the way they are?). As I said earlier, evolution doesn't have anything to say to this. It seems coherent that precisely the same functions could have been performed by a physically identical zombie. Evolution can't tell the difference between the zombie and me. To get around this argument, the physicalist will simply have to deny that the physically identical zombie is logically possible. And that denial is a separate issue (which we've been arguing for a while), quite independent of the questions about evolution. > Why this rather than that may again answer to what is >most advantageous and most efficient: there is some sense to >experiencing blue as darker than red, since it *is* darker; >so inverting blue and red might weaken other cues of the experiential >feel, other uses. So perhaps inverted spectra are perfectly possible, >but just not a wise use of neurological resources. Again, the advantage accrues to the functional role, not to the experience per se. So this explanation has nothing to say about why that functional role has to be accompanied by the experience. > If explanations along these lines do not satisfy you, then >it seems you seek a finer neurochemical understanding of why >opiates make us feel good, why epinephrine heightens awareness, and >so on. Surely this type of micro-understanding of our brain processes >is on the way. An explanation of the brain will tell us why certain functional processes take place within us, and affect our reactions in certain ways. This doesn't tell us anything about the main question, which is, as always: why are these processes accompanied by qualia? > If even these explanations would not satisfy you, then >perhaps you could make clear what type of explanation *would* satisfy you. Obviously, I'm not sure that there *can* be a good physicalist explanation of qualia, which is why I lean toward dualism. A dualist explanation of qualia will take the existence of qualia as a further irreducible property of the way the world is, and so won't "explain" their existence any more than physics "explains" why matter exists, or why the law of gravity is true -- some things have to be taken as basic and brute facts. Of course, once that step is taken, the dualist can seek to systematize those facts, and in particular to investigate the possibility of a set of systematic and parsimonious laws connecting qualia with the physical (e.g., taking qualia to be intimately linked with information). That way of proceeding isn't open to the physicalist, however, who can't admit qualia as basic. On the physicalist view, they must follow from prior physical facts about the universe (such as the facts given to us by physics). A physicalist explanation must show why, given the physical facts about the brain, the existence of qualia is *inevitable* -- why it simply couldn't be any other way. -- Dave Chalmers (dave@cogsci.indiana.edu) Center for Research on Concepts and Cognition, Indiana University. "It is not the least charm of a theory that it is refutable."
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!think.com!spool.mu.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!bronze.ucs.indiana.edu!chalmers From: chalmers@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (David Chalmers) Subject: Re: Dualism Message-ID: <BvDCt0.GID@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Sender: news@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu (USENET News System) Nntp-Posting-Host: bronze.ucs.indiana.edu Organization: Indiana University References: <1992Sep28.005156.11177@sophia.smith.edu> <Bv9vGp.Ax3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <1992Sep29.130441.29896@sophia.smith.edu> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:12:36 GMT Lines: 76