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Article #498Re: The Cosmological Bad Dream
From: Frank Adams
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:30
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:30
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In article <1992Oct10.183025.43740@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes: >In article <1992Oct09.173634.150896@Cookie.secapl.com>, frank@Cookie.secapl.com (Frank Adams) writes: >> Assertions vary in the degree of certainty which the speaker has in the >> assertion as well as in the precision of interpretation. > >We don't disagree here. > >It is not unusual >> for an assertion to occupy more than one point on this spectrum. > >Do you have any evidence for this? Does it seem a wholly novel idea >that we might want to have support from speaker behavior for what we >assert about language? I have given examples where I believe exactly this is happening, and Ken has rejected them out of hand. I'm not in the business of doing research into "speaker behavior", so there is really nothing else I can offer. >> Another example: if your boss tells you that there will be a meeting >> tomorrow with every employee in the company present, you will believe >> strongly that there will be a meeting; much less strongly that *every* >> employee will be there. This is understood by both you and your boss. > >Yes. Or if I say, "Everybody's coming to the party tonight" my hearer >knows I do not mean all the people in the world. The context and the >belief-worlds of speaker and hearer determine an interpretation. But there *are* two simultaneous interpretations in my example. Your boss really *does* intend that every employee will be there; but he also intends to hold the meeting, even if not everybody makes it. Your counter-example loses this aspect by presenting a clearly counter-factual surface claim. >This is empirically supported: we ask "What did he mean when he said S?" >and we certainly expect an intelligible response. Notice that when a >hearer is uncertain as to interpretation, he will pursue it: "What did >you mean?" "Do you mean exactly three men?" etc. If your notion of >simultaneous precision values were correct, I do not see how you would >account for this behavior. Uncertainty about the intended meaning is quite independent of the possibility of multiple meanings. A reasonable answer to "Do you mean exactly three men?" would be "Three would be best, but one or two more would be acceptable.". This I would interpret as resolving the uncertainty into explicit multiple meanings.
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Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!secapl!Cookie!frank From: frank@Cookie.secapl.com (Frank Adams) Subject: Re: The Cosmological Bad Dream Message-ID: <1992Oct12.183056.71406@Cookie.secapl.com> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:30:56 GMT References: <1992Oct8.210422.43690@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <1992Oct09.173634.150896@Cookie.secapl.com> <1992Oct10.183025.43740@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Organization: Security APL, Inc. Lines: 45